1:1 DVD RIPS

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  1. Surreal

    Surreal Member

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    I will admit I am new to the DVD-Ripping... I mainly stick to my strong areas such as 1:1 Music, Games (PS1 and PC)... but I was reading the DVD to DVD-R for Newbs and it said you will be unable to make a direct copy. I am just wondering if this consists of a copy with NERO and other burning software, or a direct Sector by Sector translation. Such as ripping the DVD's ISO from the disk and burning that to a DVD-R. I have not run out and got myself a DVD R/RW yet because of the risk of not being able to make those 1:1 DVD rips. If anyone can give me information on this I would be very happy.
     
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    Most times, you cannot make a 1:1 copy because store bought DVD's hold a little more than 8 GB, and DVD-R's hold 4.7 GB. There are several programs available that can rip and compress for you.
     
  3. Surreal

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    Would I be able to convert the file type into a compressed volume and still have the ability run it on a DVD Player? I do believe you would be able to run it from your computer as the computer reads the compression as a partition and will let you access the files within...

     
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    I have a very fussy stand alone DVD player, and it plays every movie that I have backed up onto 4.7 GB media. My process is this:

    DVDdecrypter
    DVD2one
    Stomp RecordNow
     
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    Yeah, I have a really old DVD player (Toshiba 2006, from 1998). The only format it works with is DVD+R. Have copied about a dozen movies to DVD+R so far and played successfully.

    Used DVD Decrypter to copy full DVD-9 to hard drive, then DVD Shrink 1.03 to compress it. If movie is short enough, there is usually room left also add most "extras" that DVD's usually have these days. DVD Shink is nice because you can fool around with compression levels and removing unneeded stuff (like logos, foreign language track, etc). Plus, you can shrink the main movie only slightly (level 1 or level 2) to keep quality high, and shrink the extra stuff more (like level 3 or 4) to squeeze as much as possible onto the disk. Only problem is the DVD menu won't work, so I just don't include that at all. Put movie in player, it starts playing the movie. Actually, my wife likes that better! When movie is done, the extra videos like "making of ..." just start playing, one after the other, kinda like hitting "play all" from the menu (if that existed).

    Once in a while, with a long movie, if you want to keep the quality high, you have to split it to two DVD's. This is no problem with DVD Shrink because you can crop the videos. So, find a good spot in video to split (like a scene fade or black frame) and crop to put first part on disk 1 and second on disk 2. In this case, you generally don't need to compress the movie at all since your two DVD-5's should hold all of the contents of the DVD-9 source.

    DVD Shrink level 1 compression is indistinguishable from the source, and level 2 is nearly so. Level 3 and 4 will show some artifacts so only use that if you really don't care about that sort of thing. Beyond level 4 is for archiving where you want to keep the sound but the video can be really crappy. Some people use these levels for the "extra"s just to get everything onto one DVD-5 (+R or -R), but I think if the quality is really bad, you probably won't watch it anyway, so why bother unless you just want to keep the audio.

    How's that for a short answer!
     
  7. Surreal

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    Thanks for all your help. I have worked with video editing programs before but never considered messing with my DVD's and now I can load all my shit on to 2 DVD R's. I am using leaked editing tools to split the movie into seperate CD's each containing bits and peices like the secondary audio and "extras". Plus with the computer I just built. (My VERSION of the alienware gaming PC) This seems to get done much faster and have better compression.
    I can't wait for a single sided DVD+R that can hold round 9,000,000 bytes. Then I will not have to edit my videos.
     
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    Yeah a 9GB single sided disk would be good, but probably wouldn't work on todays DVD writers because the laser would need to function in a different method, to be able to focus on both layers of the disk. I reckon the closest we'll probably get, at least with this generation of DVD writers is a double sided DVD (one that you have to turn over). Hey, you never know, hopefully I'll be proved wrong!
     

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