a movie problem

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    jtc982 Member

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    ok i tried with several unsucessful attemps to making a working copy of kingdom of heaven. i d/l this movie and joined them together and converted with winavi then burned with nero. when i tried to play the movie in my ps2 slim this message comes up saying the tv systme don't match. whats goiong wrong here i thought i did everything right. any help how i can fix this problem??
     
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    Take in mind that I'm not encouraging piracy, but I think that a small lesson could be useful.

    "the tv system doesn't match" is a typical error of region-copy protection which DVD (and PC DVD-ROM units, if used as players) have.

    There exist 6 ' DVD regions':

    Region 1. U.S., U.S. Territories, Canada, and Bermuda
    Region 2. Japan, Europe, South Africa, and the Middle East, including Egypt
    Region 3. Southeast Asia, East Asia, including Hong Kong
    Region 4. Australia, New Zealand, Pacific Islands, Mexico, Central America, South America, and the Caribbean
    Region 5. Former Soviet Union, Indian subcontinent, Africa, North Korea, and Mongolia
    Region 6. China

    Region 1 and 2 are the most known ones, i.e. region 1 = NTSC (U.S. and Canada); region 2 = PAL (Europe and Japan). I never heard of Hong Kong DVDs, for instance.
    But 'region protection' is a little more complicated. It means that a DVD player (and also your PS2, I assume) cannot play DVDs encoded in other 'regions'.
    If you watched a PAL VHS on a NTSC player (or vice versa), it would appear, for instance, black and white. The 'protection' simply means that you players refuses to play a DVD made in 'regions' different than yours.
    This means that an european guy can view a Japanese DVD (region 2), but not an american one (region 1).
    And if you got a NTSC movie, you need to encode from NTSC to PAL to view it, or vice versa. You'll lose a little quality (as always happens , due movie conversion) but at least you'll skip the 'DVD region' part...
    I hate the http://www.afterdawn.com/guides/archive/convert_avi_to_dvd.cfm , which suggessted, at step 4, to chooose the system according to the fps of the movie (therefore: encoding into a PAL DVD a PAL AVI even if your system is NTSC and vice versa: 25 fps = PAL, 23.976 or 29.97 fps = NTSC. Note that Nero 'encodes' the movie automatically, so this part is skipped. Read our guide.).
    I pointed this problem out to DrD on the 'moderators lounge', but he sayd me that some DVD are 'multi-region' and often you don't put in your DVD a region code when you make one, but you're evidently an exception in this.
    Therefore my suggestion is:
    1) buy the DVD, or
    2) if you want to test the movie before buying it, first, convert that movie to PAL/NTSC so that it will be compliant to your system, before 'authoring' it into a DVD with it. Then your PS2 will play it...
    (a suggestion: a PS2 costs hundreds of dollars, a DVD player costs half a hundred. Don't fatigue your PS2's optical features, if you can avoid it...)
     
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    thanks is there a program you can recommend to convert from pal to ntsc? when i do convert pal to ntsc that elminates the need for a region. am i saying that right?
     
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    How about if he used DVDFab.

    It mentions in their web that DVDFab will "Remove all the restriction of DVD (CSS, Region, RCE, Macrovision, UOPs, etc.)"

    Before burning to a DVD, there should be an option which says that it will remove all types of restrictions. Tick that option, burn to the DVD and hopefully it will work on your PS2.
     
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    so should i convert the moive file to dvd format then burn with dvdfab?
     
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    Ow, i thought you have the movie as a DVD and not as a compressed movie. e.g. .avi or .mpeg

    My mistake, DVDFab will be of no use to u. I think you should use AVI2DVD which can be found here:

    http://www.trustfm.net/divx/SoftwareAvi2Dvd.html

    This will convert PAL to NTSC or NTSC to PAL. You can still use DVDFab if you want to burn the movie.

    Since i never used AVI2DVD, i do not know wether it will convert then burn to a DVD at once or it will do each step seperately.
     

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