planning on getting this CPU but I have a question about pricing. Black Edition of this CPU costs 176 USD http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...2010340343 50001028 1050733654&name=Phenom X4 but the regular one costs 289 USD http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103285 so whats with the insanly huge price difference between these 2 CPUs??? looking at the specs they are 100% identical
They are both black editions. The cheaper one is retail and the more expensive one is OEM. This is so weird. Just a price discrepancy on newegg's part. I would get the 180 dollar one if you already have a AM2+ motherboard. Otherwise I would get a Intel Q6600.
I assume you already have an AM2+ motherboard? Because if you don't, I'd obviously recommend the intel route. As for the OEM CPU being more expensive, newegg still have the price from when the Phenom 9950 was originally introduced, so just ignore it, there's no benefit to the extra hundred dollars.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103273 Says black edition for this one too... The Black edition chips are the better ones, as they do overclock, just - among being slower, they're also consume astronomical amounts of power compared to the Intels too, so make sure you have a very good cooler, case ventilation and power supply.
Yes, you'll need a new board anyway to use these chips, so you may as well 'do the job properly' so to speak. Assuming you have reasonable performance memory (PC5400 or faster) then I'd recommend either: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115017 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835186134 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128344 or the same latter two components but with this chip instead, depending on whether you can afford the extra: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115042 I know I'm picking CPUs that already include coolers, but the ones included are naff. The reason I'm picking retail versions is they have longer warranties.
well I might go with the Q9450 but not too sure yet...300 bucks is a bit pricey but is it worth it??? I can upgrade my RAM then too, right now I have DDR2 800. my CPU cooler i have right now is an Arctic Cooling Freezer 64 Pro and I have Arctic Silver 5 thermal compound so would that be good enough?? im also getting a Radeon HD 4870 then so would a 650W Corsair power supply suffice for this system???
In my humble opinion, not really. I would go with the Q6600. The Q9450 is a bit better, but not an extra hundred dollars better, if you know what I mean, so I tend to recommend those to those who have a large budget. Your cooler will be the Freezer 64 Pro which isn't compatible with the intel platform. The Freezer 7 Pro is ironically the same cooler, but with the appropriate mounting method to attach it to an Intel system. Your RAM is fine, and you have chosen an excellent graphics card. A 650W Corsair PSU would be ideal for this lot.
alright well I guess ill just go with the Q6600 then and Ill get the Freezer 7 Pro cooler and that mobo you suggested. thank you for your help
If you can stretch for this CPU cooler it will help a lot with overclocking... http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835154001
yea i plan on doing some OCing but how much could I OC with that processor with that cooling fan?? well according to the 1 review on newegg "Keeps my Q6600 about 15c cooler compared to the Arctic Freezer 7 Pro that i had before." im half tempted to just stick it in a mini fridge or something to keep it cool so i dont have to worry at all about over heating lol
Indeed, rather like the 'xbox 360 towel mod' - it worked for someone, but that doesn't mean it will work for everyone.
No it wont work because a fridge can't cool continuously. When you put stuff in a fridge it cools it down to whatever temperature, then it only has to keep it there. That's not a lot of work. With a computer, it NEVER cools to a good temperature. It keeps on PUTTING OUT heat. Eventually(few days) your fridge will just break from the strain.
So you're meant to run the drive in a fridge? LOL I thought you were just meant to put it in there to bend the drive heads and then stick it back in the PC afterwards to use!
Oh, my bad, I'm confusing threads again. I thought you meant sticking a dead HDD in a fridge - you certainly couldn't run a PC in there! For a start there's too much moisture...