Audio DVD Creator

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  1. Rc51rider

    Rc51rider Member

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    First Off, I hope this is posted in the right place.Still finding my way around.
    Has anybody tried or, have any experience with the Audio Dvd Creator?I jumped on a link from another post here somewhere and saw this and it seems interesting.Dont know if i need it because my dvd players play mp3 cdr's, but to get mp3s on a dvd and the ac3 mixing might be a nice touch.

    Chris
     
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    I did try it out once and although I was impressed at first, that impressed feeling quickly wore off. The Audio DVD wasn't really that great. Really just like a glorified mp3 cd. In my opinion the software isnt worth it.
     
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    Guys.

    This is the High Resolution board, and DVD-Video with MP3 to Dolby Digital is far from High Resolution!
    Quality-wise, you cannot get anything but degradation:
    MP3 is a perceptual process, throwing away 11/12 of your original data.
    When this gets decoded "on the fly" and then turned into Dolby Digital (AC3), then you are recompressing material that has already been compressed, and you will inevitably introduce appalling artifacts into the disc.
    The only way to even maintain parity is to decode to LPCM and write that direct to DVD-Video without further lossy compression.
     
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    Guys.
    lol, oops your right wilkes, wrong discussion board. Change requested.
    And your right taking audio from any source and compressing it to mp3 is a horrible way of saving audio. There are good ways to compress to a mp3 (EAC,LAME,& VBR for example) but quality wise theres no comparison. And like I said there isnt really any advantage to a Audio DVD, its just a glorified mp3 cd.
     
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    Guys.
    lol, oops your right wilkes, wrong discussion board. Change requested.
    And your right taking audio from any source and compressing it to mp3 is a horrible way of saving audio. There are good ways to compress to a mp3 (EAC,LAME,& VBR for example) but quality wise theres no comparison. And like I said there isnt really any advantage to a Audio DVD, its just a glorified mp3 cd.
     
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    sorry about posting inthe wrong thread. My main intent was to see if anybody had used the program for the mixing to a 5.1 mix,not mp3s.I should have been more precise.I love when a cd has been mixed in surround,and have several dvd-audios and dts cds and was just curious about this program.

    Chris
     
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    Again, going from MP3 to a DOlby Digital 5.1 upmix is actually going to sound even worse!!
    The best way to do a pseudosurround disc in this manner if you only have MP3 as source material is to play the disc through your AV setup, and invoke one of the built-in pseudosurround options.
    1 - Neo-DTS in Music mode as opposed to Movie mode
    2 - SRS Circle Surround in Music mode
    3 - Dolby ProLogic II in Music mode, or matrix mode if playing an old SQ/QS encoded disc.
    This will tell you what the tracks will approximately sound like, but as you are doing this with MP3 that has already tossed out so much (11/12) of the data the codec considered to be redundant, surplus or inaudible, there is very little left for any upmxing algo to get hold of and move around.

    Youy need the original CD source to make this work, and if you like what you are hearing, take a trip to www.dtsac3.com and get ready to learn how to create your own material.
     
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    Rc51rider Member

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    I have/had no intention of using mp3 for the surround mode,I just like the way the dts,dualdisc, and such sound that I would like to have some of MY choice cds in it.
     
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    Running uncompressed CD through the process will work quite well in some cases, badly or not at all in others, and superbly in some.
    There is a great list of Stereo CD that decode well in SQ/QS/DPL/SRS/NEO-DTS type modes at www.quadraphonicquad.com (The online home of all things multichannel) and some guides for creating your own 5.1 experience from stereo sources at www.dtsac3.com

    Have fun.
     
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    thanks for the links,I will give them a look.
     

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