Batch audio compressors that will maintain my album art & song details?

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  1. RyuKonton

    RyuKonton Regular member

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    Hi, I'm looking for a Batch audio compressors that will maintain my album art & song details, details being album name, track number, artist, etc. I've tried so many and uninstalled many more, that it's really getting annoying.

    It seems like some hold my song details, yet they don't maintain my album art, or they just don't maintain my album art AND erase my song details.

    Thanks in advance!
     
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    olyteddy Regular member

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    What format? Are you looking to change format or just make them smaller? What have you tried? Can't help you unless you help us.
     
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    RyuKonton Regular member

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    Well I just want to compress a lot of songs from 320-192kbps to 128kpbs. But every converter I use always deletes the info on my song. D:
     
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    Cool. For MP3 to MP3 The Godfather will convert them with the tags and names intact. IDK about the pictures, though.
     
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    RyuKonton Regular member

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    Thanks a lot. I'll try it out right now.
     
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    RyuKonton Regular member

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    The GodFather is an awesome application, it worked very well for my songs with English titles. It even kept my album art! But I have a large amount of music that have Japanese titles as well, and It doesn't recognize the Unicode. It doesn't even let me do anything to them because they say that "The filename, directory name, or volume label syntax is incorrect". I tried setting the language to Japanese but that didn't help either. I got the same error.

    Any help with that one? [sorry for all of these questions]

    Thanks in advance!

    EDIT: Here is an image:

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    Try Advanced MP3 Converter http://www.mp3do.com
    I Think should support unicode but maybe display not correct!
     
  8. Mez

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    PowerAmp produces a high end ripper/converter. I can't amagine doing audio without it. You get a month free trial.

    I do not think you have a problem with your tag data. The problems may be with your reader. The audio files do not link to your album art. The converters are probably just copying the tag info bit by bit. The juke-box players make the connection between the artwork and the tune. When you change the file name the link points to the old file name. Why are you changing the format? That is how you screw up your sound quality.
     
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    I'm changing it because I need more space. My mp3 player is almost full and I can't afford to purchase a new one just yet. Plus, I can't tell the difference between 320kbps and 128kbps as some can, so it's really no loss to me.
     
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    That was a great answer. I know I can tell the difference between 128 and 160. I am not real sure I can tell the difference between 160 anf the next step.

    Before you go ahead and degrade all your files, did you know itunes automatically degrades mp3s to 128 during the sync? If you are using itunes you are waisting time and effort and degrading your tunes for no reason. One reason you may not be able to tell the difference is I believe itunes degrades all music to 128 including CDs when it plays the music. That way you tend to believe 128 sounds as good as CDs. Remember itunes only makes money selling 128s. It down grands the tunes becuase the ipod will faithfully produce the high bit rate music. You can easily hear the difference if your ear buds are hifi.
     
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    You could try WinAmp with the LAME out plugin. I believe WinAmp supports UniCode.
     
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    olyteddy, have you used Media Monkey? I use Media Monkey for all its organizational might. However, I don't let it touch any files other than editing the tag info. I use PowerAmp exclusively to alter the audio content.

    To make it affordable, Media Monkey scrimped on the encoders. I would like to level out my volumes and figure that is probably safe to do with Media Monkey but I would want to research carefully before I take that plunge. I am ultra conservative when it comes to my audio.

    Your mention of Win Amp and that it uses the LAME encoder peaked my interest. A large portion of the Media Monkey crowd is Win Amp dropouts. They do not have anything good to say about the app. However, their main complaints were about the users not the product. There was even some indication that it was using better encoders. What little I have seen of your comments/suggestions they were always sound. What are Win Amp's strengths? If you have used Media Monkey how does it compare?

     
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    Sry, I've only used WinAmp. I've had no reason to change. I keep all my music in one folder because that's about as easy as it gets and I like WinAmps 'Library'. I can search and sort by any tag field in less than a second and that's with approx. 12,000 songs (a lot of live stuff, especially Grateful Dead). I also love the visualizations and plethora of plug-ins including one that will output to MP3 using LAME. My favorite one will copy and append 'PL001, PL002, PLxxx' to the filenames, thus alphabetizing them in playlist order so your MP3 CD plays back in order. I did spend the $14 and upgraded to Pro a couple of years ago.

    PS: I use MP3Gain to normalize my files.
     
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    Thanks, olyteddy. Media Monkey probably does the normalization in the same way. There must be a loudness tag that will override the natural volume. I have seen + and - numbers in the comment field with DB after the number. It might just be using that. I was going to double check that before I changed my library. I will do the all at one time. I still need to archive it up before I convert.

    Unless I am playing a audio book I randomize the tunes even on play lists. I don't like to know which song comes next. Media Monkey will run VB or SQL scripts against tagged items. There is a spot where you can upload or down load scripts. There are hundreds of them.

    You are not sorting your music you are changing the controling index. That is an instant thing. The cost is built into each time you add a tune not during sort time. All good juke boxes use indexes. Sorting requires a rewrite of your library. If your library is small maybe 5000 tunes, the sort can be done in memory.

    Media Monkey uses Win Amp plug ins. If I had a serious sound system connected to my computer. I would be tempted to use Win Amp to play the music. I have $50 speakers so sound quality is not an issue in my office. The rest of the house, my car and even my ipod are HiFi. I still might take Win Amp for a spin just to know what I am missing. I might even like the visualizations but I suspect not.

    Where MM truly pays off is in libraries more than twice the size of yours. It uses a SQL engine which is very fast. It can re-scan a near full 500 G drive in about 30 minutes. The old MM that used access as the back end took hrs per 100 G. Everything else is instantanious.

    I also don't mind paying some money for something I use often.
     

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