Blocking and Freezing

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  1. REPLAY999

    REPLAY999 Member

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    I am using Dvd Shrink to rip and burn (with Nero)I use dvd+r disc's on a Liteon recorder. I have found some movies play ok on my Sony home cinema system, and then the same movie will freeze or cause Blocking, the same happens on Friends machines. The disc's I have used are Maxell-Mirror-datasafe, can anyone help please
     
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    try different media...and make sure the discs are clean. I've never really had much success with maxell.
     
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    Ok will try, can you
    recommend any other makes?
     
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    well, people on these boards love ritek...tdk aren't bad. I'd check the media forum and see what people with you burner/player use.
     
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  6. viper6699

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    replay999......i am using same recipe as you.....

    liteon drive
    shrink
    nero

    i only use ritek g04 dvd-r and apart from the odd ocasion where i've been an arse.......i have not had a single failure.
     
  7. Yordan

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    Ritek G04 are the best I`ve come across so far, not a single coster to date. If you lower you burn speed to 2x you are guarnteed great results every time althogh with Ritek media this is not necessary.
     
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    It looks like I have cured the problem by using Decrypter to rip and then Nero to shrink and burn, 2 stages and it works Great!!!
     
  9. Braxas

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    It very well may not be bad media. I was having some the same issues with various programs. After reading one of the other threads I think I found something that worked. This is using Ridata 4x DVD+R's with a RICOHJPN media number. They actually are listed as Ritek G04's.

    One thing I found so far that seems to work very well.

    Rip the movie with DVD Decrypter. Mode -> ISO -> Read

    After the movie is ripped to the hard-drive fire up DVDShrink and compress the movie. When you set your backup options up compress the file to an ISO File. After you select the movie to be backed up into ISO File Format's you'll recieve an option to burn with DVD Decrypter. Make sure that box is checked and let DVD Decrypter do the burning. I don't know, for me, if the difference is in being decrypted to ISO/compressed to ISO first or if DVD Decrypter just does such an excellent job of burning the DVD that it takes care of compatibility issues that may occur.

    So far I have done two movies with this new way of doing things for me and Undercover Brother has worked perfectly in my very picky Allegro ABV341 VHS/DVD Combo and in the Xbox. Before what I would generally get is a movie that played perfectly in the XBox but it would skip/stutter in 10 second segments near the end of the movie - if it was really bad it would even do that in the beginning of the movie. I've spent a couple of weeks getting backups that would play perfectly on both and think this method appears to be the best so far. In ISO Mode you should still be able to do Deep Analysis in Shrink as well when you want the best quality possible for movies that are being heavily compressed. In my opinion, so far, from what I have seen DVD Shrink and DVD Decrypter seem to be the winning combination. The only thing - when you start burning with DVD Decrypter if it complains about not having exclusive access to the drive or something there is a way around that. :)

    To get around it go to the Tools menu, down to settings. Click on the ISO Write Mode tab at the top and then uncheck "Lock Volume - Exclusive Access". It should burn through without a problem.

    Like I say, this seems to really work well - it doesn't take much more time and the best thing is that both programs are free! You can't really beat that. I hope it works out for you. :)
     
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    I would like to thank all of the above for some valuable input, well done you lot!!!!
     
  11. Braxas

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    Just adding here. Since you do have a Lite-On DVD Burner you can download a tool called Kprobe. It's useful in detecting errors. There is a link for it's download and guides over at cdfreaks.com on their forums. Basically, once you get Kprobe up and running if the PI (Parity Inner) number is above 280 or the PO (Parity Outer) number is above 32 then you're getting either bad burns out of somewhere or there is something else going on in the system.

    If everything is in check and looks ok and the numbers are low or pretty decent they shouldn't skip and freeze a whole lot. I found for my Lite-On 451S the best firmware for DVD+R's is the GSB7 which is the newest firmware and it supports the Booktype settings so you can make DVD+R's pickup like DVD-Rom's. On cdfreaks.com they also now have a patcher for the drives firmware that will make it automatically change the booktype to DVD-Rom for DVD+R's.

    The easiest way I found to get the patch installed was to use flashfix on the GSB6 firmware and reflash the drive to GSB6. Once that is done and the computer is restarted go back through and use the patch program to patch the GSB7 firmware (I'd download a new .exe from Lite-On to be on the safe side!) and save the new file out. Run that newly patched file and it'll upgrade the drive to GSB7. Of course if the drive is only running GSB6 you don't have to downgrade first. I only downgraded so I could do a straight upgrade first. So far it's been working way past my expectations and the Kprobe results have been great even on CMC Magnetics (TDK DVD+r's) media. I really can't complain about the drive at all at this point I think. :)
     
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    Thanks for the Info
     
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