burning more than one back up movie to a single dvd-r

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  1. andy0906

    andy0906 Member

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    i just wondered if anyone knew which software you need to compress more than one movie to a dvd-r
     
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    I never tried putting 2 movies on one disc before so I read your post and went off to have a look.
    Shrink will do it and so will nero Recode 2 but depending on what films they are it's going to need a fair bit of compressing.
    Then there's the issue of being able to access either film from a menu at the start of the dvd.
    I'm positive there's a guide here somewhere explaining it all.
     
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    Why do you want to do that when DVD blank media is approaching CD prices? There is no software that will do it anyway since the compression involved would make the movies look more like avi quality.
     
  4. andy0906

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    i know what you are saying about the prices on blank dvd media coming down in price but it is more for storage purposes. i have a lot of vhs videos and i wanna compress them and fit onto dvd-r's. i know quality will suffer but it can't be any worse than vhs quality.
     
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    As I said, Dvd shrink and nero will do it but ideally it would be movie only.
    I just tried it and the compression level needed was 63% which is a bit high but no higher than some big movies.
     
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    but how do you compile the movies
     
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    Forget it. It's a waste of time. DVD Shrink will not allow you to re-author a movie to 2Gb so there is now way you can fit two movies onto a single disc.
     
  8. michigan

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    Shrink the movie then Shrink it again until you get it down to what you want but the quality is going to go down fast at that rate.
     
  9. Discmania

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    The latest verion of DVD Shrink does not give any control over the amount of shrinkage other than the deletion of certain audio or subtitle files. This is not without reason. The whole point of shrinking ripped files is to maintain the highest quality within the given limits. It was not designed to squash files like flies to create a double bill. Also you cannot re-load files back into Shrink to re-author again.
     
  10. michigan

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    [bold]The latest verion of DVD Shrink does not give any control over the amount of shrinkage other than the deletion of certain audio or subtitle files.[/bold]
    Huh? Select custom setting and set it smaller.

    [bold]This is not without reason. The whole point of shrinking ripped files is to maintain the highest quality within the given limits. It was not designed to squash files like flies to create a double bill.[/bold]
    Huh? It's designed to do exactly that Shrink the file by compressing it.

    Shrink = to make smaller
    Compress = to make smaller
    Squash = to make smaller (also a tasty vegatable)
     
  11. Discmania

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    Well yes the custom button does allow you to shrink further than the default amount but it is not designed to halve the amount of space already given. The fact is that if you compress a movie by more than about 40% you will notice a most definite reduction in quality - by less than that if you view on a very wide screen. I'm also not sure that you can drag two lots of VOB and ISO files into Nero and still burn to one disc. Before burning Nero sorts each file into it's correct order, so confusion must reign if you try and add two lots of different files from two different movies. I suggest our friend tries what is suggested and lets us have the feedback.
     
  12. michigan

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    I agree, I was just saying that it can be done that way, but as you and I said the quality will, to put it bluntly suck. Another thing that I am not real sure about - It sounds like andy0906 is converting from VHS to DVD and the quality is not as high as a DVD original to begin with so the quality is going to be even worse if you Shrink/compress it.

    Just because you put it on DVD it doesn't make the quality any better than what you started with. So in this case you should Shrink/compress it as little as possible to keep the quality as high as possible. For space buy the 1/2 size cases they save a ton of space.

    Thanks for keeping me honest Discmania
     
  13. deadcat

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    yes there is and its quite easy.

    rip first movie only to hard drive
    re-open shrink and select re-author, drag the above movie into window from dvd browser
    drag movie 2 (which is now sitting in dvd rom drive) into re-author window
    Click on back up
    If its too big, do the backup thing then reopen shrink and browse to shrunk movie on hardrive, shrink again

    i would recommend doin it this way as opposed to shrinking one movie to 2gb then shrinking other movie to 2gb as shrink will try to compress low action etc alot more than action scenes so your movie 1 might be 2.5gb and movie 2 might be 1.5gb (hope this makes sense). Also shrink will join the movie for you to enable easy burning with nero/decrypter

    Also would recommend removing unnecessary sound streams/subtitles/end and start credits for both movies
    Also use deep analysis
    Also set to sharp in back up settings bit

     
  14. michigan

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    Yes but I believe he is backing up VHS tapes to DVD. This is fine but the quality is still going to be a problem if it is compressed. VHS capture is not the same quality as a DVD. Then to compress it you will lose some mor quality, I don't think the amount of lost quality would be worth the effort.
     
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    andy0906

    Are you any the wiser?

    Your original question was
    To which the answer remains
    The thread got a bit argumentative after that so I had a lager and went to bed.
    But some very valid points were made, as I said myself, it would require a fair bit of compression reulting in a loss of the original quality. And why bother when dvd-r's are so cheap these days.
    You would be better off keeping one movie to one disc.
     
  16. michigan

    michigan Guest

    Yes, what he said. ;)
     

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