cant play dvd

Discussion in 'DVDR' started by woj, Nov 17, 2003.

  1. woj

    woj Guest

    IF i copy from a backup thats on dvd-r to a dvd+r, my dvd player on my tv plays the copy. I made a backup of a retail dvd and put it on dvd+r, but my player wouldnt play it, any ideas why not?? It was the first time i decrypted anything, so i mighta gone wrong but i used the instructions off this site.
     
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    yuedana Regular member

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    Need more info. what process do you use to make a copy. What kind of burner, media, and what is the make of your standalone.

    Does your computer play the backup that you burned on the dvd+r
     
  3. woj

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    i used roxio version 5 that was standard on my comp t burn it. I decrypted with dvd decrypter and shrunk with dvd shrink. my burner is an NEC DVD+RW ND-1100A, used a Maxell DVD+R disc to burn to my standalone is a bush 2023. The computer plays the backup, but the chapters seem to be in the wrong order.
     
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    ScubaPete Senior member

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    woj,
    You don't need de-crypter if you have shrink!
    Most every one I know has trouble with Roxio. I got it with my system and even did their upgrade and now I have trashed the whole program only using it to burn music CD's. CloneDVD or better yet, Nero is all the burner you'll ever need. Either one you can try for free for 30 days. Give them a try to find the one you like to work with.
    "P"
     
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    With what program was the -R created with (burned with)?.....

    If it is different than what you have created the +R with, you most likely just copied the it 1:1 with that format and not the format Roxio is formatting to....

    Hard to explain but simply:

    If you burn a dvd with one program, then copy it using another program - ie on the fly......then you are keeping the original format it was burned in and NOT a new format that the other proggy burns in.....

    Basically, Roxio MAY NOT be producing a format that your standalone will play.....

    For a test........get the -R that worked, rip it and process it (Dvd2one or Dvd shrink) then burn it with Roxio and see if it works.......my bet is that it won't but try and let us know.......
     
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    Hi
    Ive got a similar problem. i have bought a LG 4040 writer, used shrink and nero6 demo to rip/fit/burn first onto DVD+RW and then to DVD+R. when i play it on comp.it plays fine but when tried in my Toshiba 210E DVD player it gives a "disk error" message. I was hoping that DVD+R would not have problems but...

    can anyone please help and tell me what i am doing wrong. is it some option in nero6 that i must pay attention to? i just choose the dvd video option and go ahead with the burn process...???
     
  7. Jerry746

    Jerry746 Senior member

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    Check your Toshiba book for disc compatability. I'm hearing a lot of Toshibas only play dvd-r burns not dvd+r discs. Jerry
     
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    ScubaPete Senior member

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    With all the suggestions you're getting you should get it to work but if not, try a change your media to top-shelf stuff --
    Low grade media will drive you crazy -
     
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    Praetor Moderator Staff Member

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    1. Hehe some would argue Roxio isnt even up to the task of audio cd burnin'
    2. Nero/CloneCD is certainly not sufficient to burn a good chunk of the data cds out their (i.e., SecureROM based games and such). They also cant handle audio protection schemes very well either.
     
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    sorry i forgot to mention earlier on that i have been using Verbatim +R and Verbatim +RW disks so far. i thought its compatibility is supposed to be higher with dvd players!!?? but well, dosnt look like my toshiba likes it so i will try other media or maybe a -R disk instead.

    thanks for help
     
  11. woj

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    Got it sorted, d/loaded nero from here and gave it a bash and just used shrink instead of both (I'm new to this so sorry if i sounded dumb!) and its worked out gr8, musta been roxio, piece of monkey crap!!! Thanks for all the info!
     
  12. woj

    woj Guest

    Got it sorted, used shrink and then nero, worked a treat, must have been roxio bein cak! thanks for all the info! woj
     
  13. rajshelu

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    Hi
    Got a reply from Toshiba guys..." toshiba player (sd 220E in my case) will only play
    DVD-R disks and nothing else"
    so im gonna try DVD -R disks now but what brand??.. do you guys think Verbatim will work?

    thnx n'regards

     
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    Praetor,
    I'm no Gamer but I can't see where Nero & Clone DVD would be considered a bad choice. So please, enlighten me - Do in a PM if you have to - "P"

    woj,
    So very glad you got it straightened out good guy, life is always better when everyone is traveling the same way down the street.
    And finally, in my humble opinion, Verbatim is an excellent brand, you should have no trouble with that -
    Best O' Luck, "P"
     
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    rajshelu, glad you got it worked out. Ran into that Toshiba media problem 4-5 times already. They only seem to play -R media. I guess the newer models might play both. Any good -R should work. Jerry
     
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    Praetor Moderator Staff Member

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    I mistook CloneDVD for CloneCD. CloneDVD is a fine product. CloneCD however, compared to the alternatives, does not make the grade (it is offset however by its extreme ease of use). A minor disseration of CloneCD
    - The major players in protected CD duplication are CloneCD, Alcohol120 and BlindWrite
    - Audio Protection (specifically Cactus Datashield 200 and above), the only app to fail to perfectly duplicate the protected CD was CloneCD. Whilst it made a perfect copy of the music - it failed to transfer also copy the protection scheme, in effect, it removed the protection -- which may be what an end user desires but the CHOICE to be able to remove the protection scheme would have been a better approach
    - Data Protection (SafeDisc2): until the new CloneCD came out (i.e. versions 4.2.0.2 or older), CloneCD was unable to properly and reliably perform backups of SafeDisc 2.8, SafeDisc 2.9 and SafeDisc 3.1 games (i dont know what happened to 3.0). Yes there were/are workaround but by the nature of workarounds, they are not 100% reliable. The rerelease of CloneCD was supposed to fix this (guarnatee ability to duplicate up to SafeDisc2.9 without problems) however I have not had any luck doing so :-(. Alcohol120, the recommended choice for Safedisc2 had no problems. Ditto for Blindwrite (although the experience was better with Alcohol120)
    - Data Protection (SecureROM): geez SecureROM is a B*tch to backup. Regardless of the software, SecureROM is friggen hard to duplucate properly. The reccommended choice here is BlindWrite althought Alcohol120 can handle itself. CloneCD does a better job here with much more effectiveness than with SafeDisc2 (which is kind of stange).
    - CloneCD lacks the ability to burn normal cds and hence Nero comes in. Nero is a perfect choice for both regular and power users (although i wouild venture to say power users might prefer the capabilities of Discjuggler) although thats a moot point.
     

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