Decrypter - Intervideo DVD Copy 2 question

I'm a former DVD Copy X and Express user. I've been following the threads checking out replacements and have had successful burns ripping with Decrypter using Shrink. I had success with Decrypter and the trial version of DVD2One.

I'm stumped on the trial version of Intervideo. When I ripped with Decrypter in File mode, I burned the result with Copy 2 and it wouldn't even load the DVD in any of my players. I ripped the ISO file and got an unsupported format message. I know I'm missing something, but I haven't found the answer through the search function or reading the guides.

Time to ask for help.

 

Tried again using Decrypter to Copy 2 to Nero and got a successful burn. I thought Copy 2 would burn on its own.

Anyone still want to offer tips on this program I'd appreciate it. Thanks.

 

Hi...I was looking for some info on this one and found your thread...I too have some questions.
1. the sales blip touts that it can do 9gig to 4gig...this would be compression...will I be able to play it as such?
2. so, I take it that this one does not have it's own decrypter?
3. If so, why would I need to rip it first?
4. Is there a dvd copy utility that does all in one? I have an all-in-one drive..dvd ram...etc...with the decrypter?
5. Most of the disks I wish to make "backups" of are like around 7or more gig...is there dvd media, sigle sided that I can obtain? In ANY format? ie, dvd ram, dvd - or + R?

You seem to know a lot more about this than me...I am just now getting my hooks in to this type of work/task.

Thanks for the reply in advance...should anyone care to help me out on this one.

()W()

 

I noticed in my last thread that I did not specify:

Is there a dvd media of more than 4.x gig---single sided? If so, who, what and where?

 

Hello Willspcs,

I ended up not purchasing Copy2 and my trial period has ended. I'm still learning all this, but I'll attempt to answer your questions. I found nothing wrong with Copy2, I just went in another direction.

1. Yes the copy would be compressed and yes you would be able to play it. I assume your DVD player is a newer generation that will play DVD-R or +R discs.

2. No Copy 2 does not have a decrypter. At this point I don't think any US sold products are a ripper version.

3. DVD copy programs sold in the US are not able to copy a copy protected DVD (read commercial movie). It is not against the law outside the US. You have to rip it to get it on your hard drive so these programs can do what they do.

4. Shrink is an all in one utility, lacking only a burner. It works seamlessly with Nero though.

5. I know nothing about DVD-Ram. I burn -R because my portable player and the one in the auto have trouble digesting some +R discs. I use Ritek or Ridata G04 media. It's highly recommended on this forum. Follow this link for info: http://www.videohelp.com/dvdmedia
Also follow their other links on players and writers.

What I use is Shrink and also Decrypter/Rebuilder/CCE Basic. In the most popular guide section of the homepage follow the DVD to DVDR using Shrink guide and the High Quality DVD-9 with Rebuilder guide. Shrink allows me to quickly make a back-up of the main movie and Rebuilder allows me to make a quality back-up of the entire disc.

The biggest tip I can give you is read the guides section. There is a wealth of information and answers there.

 

I should have added on your question of playing compressed DVD's, my primary viewing is front projection on a 106" screen. I have [bold]no[/bold] complaints as to the quality of discs I have backed up.

 

Also forgot to add that I buy media from meritline.com or newegg.com. You can get the price down to around .50/each.

 

Sorry it took so long to get back to you...
I just found the DVD Xcopy version before the court ruling. It should be here in a few days...I got it off of ebay---NOTE: Just after I bought it, ebay took it off siting that it may be illegal to sell here but also note to that the program can be sold if the edition is that of prior to the ruling. I did try the DVD Clone 2...it works great on one-to-one but I could not get 7.x gig to fit on to a 4.x gig media. I will be checking out your suggestions and doing the reading soon...I have more questions but not the time presently to communicate much further than what I am currently...please look for a response tomorrow.

And THANKS SO MUCH for replying...I greatly appreciate your response. I run a one-man-show business called Will's PCs, Laptops & Networks so my time is always pressed...I can help with other Computer Pro issues but this is one I have not attempted to put my grubby paws upon until now...so adue until tomorrow.

()w()

 

Re: DVD X Copy

You need to make sure you have a license ID and password to activate the program. 321 Studios was using a third party for activation so you should be able to activate even though 321 has shut down. pm me if you have a problem.

If your seller sold you a ripper free version there are threads on this forum to fix that. I started out with X Copy and even if Shrink wasn't freeware I like it better.

 

does all those work seemlessly or do you have to "step" them or process each as a step in the final process?

My seller says it is supposed be the 4.38 with all the bells and whistles...of course, I could be wrong...it supposed to be in a sealed retail box with activations...again..I could be wrong.

 

both DVD X Copy and Shrink work seamlessly, but there are steps to take in both.

With DVD X Copy, the program analyzes the contents of the original and gives you the opportunity to remove parts you don't want such as trailers, foreign soundtracks or director commentary. DVD X Copy will not fit most movies on a single disk, which is why X Copy Express became popular. Many times you can remove enough extras to make it fit, but on longer length movies it will split it to two discs. You can decide where the split takes place. DVD X Copy also places an annoying disclaimer at the start of the copy that was intended to ward off law suits. There is an application found in this forum that will remove it. After you decide what you want to remain in your copy, hit a button and it burns it.

Shrink does not have a built in burner, but works seamlessly with Nero 6. Shrink also analyzes the content of the original and allows you to make a copy of the entire disc or just the main movie and remove unwanted parts. Shrink will use enough compression to fit the content on a single disc. Once you've decided what you want in the output Shrink burns automatically with Nero. Shrink is a more sophisticated product and has features such as deep analysis that take longer, but yield a higher quality back-up. Also, the guide on this forum will take you step by step through the process. Of the two, I use Shrink.

 

Oh well, I guess I just wasted about $150. I got the DVD Clone 2 ($60)...wasn't happy with the lack of ratio---only one to one. I THOUGHT DVD XCopy ($90 off of ebay)would do the trick...now I find out it won't (it touts being able to put a 9G source to a 4G source)...Now I find out that Shrink will---and it is free...I will be getting it. However, it looks like I will have to buy the Nero6. Cheapest I have seen it is about $60. Am I correct in what I have stated so far? Live and learn, I guess.

You've been a great help. I would like to keep this thread open for more dicussion.

 

Check Pricegrabber. They have the OEM Nero 6 for between $3 and $12. You don't need the Ultra for this. When you get it, it's a free upgrade to 6.3.1 which burns DVD's.

Don't consider it money wasted. You'll have several different ways of backing up a DVD. I thought I was sunk when I couldn't activate Express after I put in a new hard drive, then I discovered this site and I've pretty much tried everything listed. I will not be without again.

 

This means "we are cooking with Crisco" now. Not all things all "low hanging fruit" but you are making this an easy quest for me. I will be checking this out soon. Busy schedule today. I will be returning to this thread latter today---hopefully after I have obtained every thing I need to set this up for one last confirmation before I do the installs. I probably will have more questions at that point.

I know that if we changed subject we would have to start a new thread---however, I am not without skills in the IT department and would gladly return your generosity by sharing what I know should you or others here have a need. All you need to do is but ask.

Rgds:
()W()

 

W

Read through this thread:
http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/97332

I forgot that Decrypter (shareware) also burns so you won't need Nero. You can size the DVD in Shrink and burn with Decrypter. Read through the guides for "how to", they are simple and excellent.

 

Willspcs and Wensteph
This info should be useful for both of you.

As a long time owner of DVDXCopy Platinum, I can say you didn't waste your money buying the program; as long as you got it at sale price and have the ID and activation numbers. Activation of the product is still going on. Since the 321 forum here at AD is closed, I have found another site that is very good for things involving 321 software. Try this link: http://cgi.tripod.com/321ripforum/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?action=login You can find an assortment of articles devoted solely to XCopy.

As for the version you have. You said 4.38; I'm thinking that may be 4.0.3.8, which is the last version that would still decrypt. Following that version the courts forced the production of the ripperless RF version 4.0.4.15. Your version will compress. Not only will it compress, it is able to split movies without compression onto 2 discs. It's in the setting choices. It takes a program like DVD2One to attach splits or flippers though. But then again, you have the original.

Editing with the program in advanced can be a bit tricky at first until you learn the chapter set up. Like the one with the most parts is the main movie. [bold]There is a complete users guide included in the program. You have to have the free Adobe Reader to open it as it is in PDF format.[/bold] You need Adobe Reader anyway as that is the popular document format. As a PC guru, you probably already have that or the full Adobe Acrobat.

Also in the Platinum XCopy, if that is what you have is the Xpress program. The Simple selection. It allows one button recording of movie only or complete disk. One of the simplest and best programs of this type.

Wensteph was correct in that some of the older programs from 321 would not compress and anything over the target size entailed splitting. However that is not the case with the later programs. I recorded the rather long movie Pirates of the Caribbean and had no problems.

I spent too much time addressing the 321. You can check out info on the nag windows at the link I provided. There are ways to fix the nag windows.

[bold]I just noticed a fault with your Newbie mentality. Do not make the mistake of getting caught in a comfortable thread. Info given may be intended to be helpful, but can be incomplete or dated. In this hobby things change overnight. Get in the habit of searching the forum and sampling the various input.[/bold]

As far as Shrink is concerned, I was given the privilege of being slightly involved with the beta testing. The new 3.2 DVD Shrink is unparalleled as a freeware program. It does work best with Nero. Nero also has the Recode2 which is a good transcoding program. You might want to check into that when purchasing Nero. It only needs a ripper program like DVD Decrypter or AnyDVD if you have a powerful enough system to record on the fly. That is a process best left for high powered CPUs, big RAM and fast drives. Getting back to Shrink. The guides here and at DVDShrink.info are good starter items. For the comprehensive guides go to Doom9.org. Hope they're still there, they were recently. Check out the guides on DVD Decrypter and DVD Shrink. A note of warning here. As 3.2 has some new options, they are not all covered in the old guides. There are new quality settings which make the program better for higher compression loads. That is covered on the forum. Those settings do take more time. Smaller movies don't need those settings so the program can be run in the same mode as the older version, much faster.

Just remember, Shrink is competitive with some retail items. However it is free and better can be purchased on the retail market. One of my favorites and I own is the DVDCopy2 from InterVideo. Some people run into operation problems if they don't have help or get a bad install. That happened to me on one occasion. Normally you rip with Decrypter in File mode and load and record. Using ISO entails an emulator program to be recognized. An easy process, but a learned one. Daemon is a free emulator program.

Hope that covered both your problems. If you have any questions, just ask. There are a lot of things I don't know, but I may be of help with these programs, as I have and use all of them.
_X_X_X_X_X_[small][bold]'brobear'[/bold]



I was an earth-rim walker, a lurker at the threshold of the abyss. - Grendel -


[bold]Et tu, Brute![/bold][/small]

 

Hmmm...looks like I got ripped...I ended up with the Xcopy Platinum version 3.1.1...any know of this version and the limitations?

 

It's a version with the ripper which is good, other than that I know nothing about it.

Brobear, from tracking the posts by those persuing quality such as yourself and Sophocles, it seems like the progression has evolved to Rebuilder/CCE. Great quality, but definitely a hit the burn button and go to bed program. Do you consider Copy2 quality to be between Shrink and RB/CCE? Near CCE quality, but much quicker? When I told Willspcs that I did not purchase Copy2 and had gone in another direction, that was to RB/CCE. Tempted to get Copy2 also; I only had the chance for one burn on the trial version.

 

BroBear:

Hmmm…. a fellow thinking man...much respect--to you all.

Thanks for the warning about stale threads. I'm in a bunch of them now...not enough hours in the day to keep up. Lots of white papers and the like to read but you are so on que that I don't think I'll need much more than to speed scan the rest. I'm where I wanted to be...when I have more time I will be into this more. No one can know it all but as Jagger put it, if you try some times, you get what you need.

I take it you are a Linux fan of some sort...free source all the way! But, sadly, that is not where the money is for me as I join the great pursuit of the all mighty dollar.

I downloaded the trial v. of Intervideo. Haven't gotten to it yet. That dollar thing in the way still. It might be a week or more before I can catch up enough to follow up on not only yours but Wensteph's insights and suggestions as well. I HAVE used the Xcopy version I obtained...it did the trick...had an issue with the advanced options while trying to be selective in my recording choices and options. (Started to burn and then crashed the process but not the program. )However, the one button click thing was, as you have already informed, the trick of the day.

Like you, I don't know it all. But I do know a thing or two. If there are issues you may wish a push--sounds like you might be a guru too---just say the word. Great minds think alike...

Kudos, BroBear.

()W()

 

Just an update on the "rip off" I got from ebay. I had purchased DVD XCOPY from a seller that was supposed to be version 4.x...she actually shipped version 3.1...I tried to settle it and and she would not...this is when I contacted the IFCC...this got her attention and some of my money returned to me...becareful out there...be sure of the versions before you buy and NEVER laydown for a seller to walk all over you!