DVD Burner Problems

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  1. Wacthingu

    Wacthingu Member

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    I have been back up a couple of movies but now the movies are coming out choppy and some movies just freeze in the middle of the movie. Does this mean i have to get a new burner. I have had the burner for like 9 months but half the movies im burning are coming out like this what is it.
     
  2. riley577

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    I had this problem when i used Ritek full face printable media. 30%of what i burned had problems with pixilation and blocking. I changeg my media to TY and have no problems now.
     
  3. saugmon

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    What's the brand name/format/speed rate of your media?
    How fast did you burn them?
    What's the brand name and model# of your dvd-rw drive?
    What programs do you use for the dvd backup process?
    How did you make those backups?

    What are you viewing those backups on when you see those issues: Stand alone player or your pc?

    Usually stand alone players have those issues. If so,then verify a couple of those backups using your pc to watch it-and using the dvd-rw drive that produced those backups to do the playing. Take note of where those issues occur if they are on a stand alone player.Then watch that area of the backup using your pc dvd-rw drive that produced it.

    Also verify those problematic backup discs on other stand alone players/game consoles/and-or pc drives. The more,the better.

    Here's the Usual culprits,but there are many more:

    1) Low quality media
    2) Burned too fast
    3) Burned too slow
    4) Dirty laser lens on drive showing those issues.
    5) Firmware update for burner
    6) Multi-tasking
    7) Fragmented harddrive/s
    8) Too Much compression
    9) Transfered jpeg/mpeg/etc files to dvd format
    10) Paper/sticker labels!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Lots of simple things here that may fix that freezing issue. Quality media will usually do the trick. You have to find which drive/s show the issues and verify how the dvd-rw drive plays it's own backups.They should be near original.After that,then the stand alone players come in.
     
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  4. Wacthingu

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    I have a Sony DVD RW DW Q28A i don't know if this burner is anygood. But the choopy video and sometimes it freezes in the middle of the movie and won't continue to play. It is not the dvd's im using because i was burning them before for about 6-8 months ok and nothing. I use sony dvd-r and +R Memorex +R and memorex printable +R also Ridata printable dvd+R. I have recently had these problems within the last week. I am buring the dvd's at max speed which are X8 and the printable at X12. I lower the speed on the printable to X8 but still the same problem. Should i get a new burner or try to fix it. I wouldn't mind getting a new one if so which one should i get i need one that would be able to handle alot of burning any suggestions.
     
  5. saugmon

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    How does those backups look while you play them on the Sony q28 a?

    If that sony shows the same issues,you got something majorly wrong.

    I'm looking more at your brands of media: Memosux- prodiscs on their printables,and cmags on majority of the rest.

    Max burn isn't recommended,unless you got some pretty darn good quality drive and media.

    Is that while you view them on your pc using the sony q28a or a stand alone player?
     
  6. Wacthingu

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    When i use the stand alone player it frezzes i rewind it to the last chapter and sometimes it goes further but still choppy. When i use it on the sony drive it doesn't freeze but it will play a still picture and then continue looks better than the stand alone player. I am going to clean the lense and see if that is the problem. I wasn't having this problem before you said it might be the speed so what speed should i be using. Sometimes in some movies the picture will be displayed with a bunch of little boxes. Do they have a dvd drive check up program that will tell you everthiny is good. I use clonedvd and NTI and they both say that the burning was successful. I will clean my lense and get back on the forum.
     
  7. saugmon

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    Cleaning the laser lens is a last resort,just before replacement.That cleaning disc can bump that lens around. A $30 stand alone player will usually play everything you slap in them,if that's a last resort.

    I'd try better media like verbatim or Japanese spindles of sony.Keep the burn at 4x and then try 8x. Test in all the drives that you play those backups on.Make sure that sony plays them near perfection.

    This is called pixellation. Also caused by the same issues I posted before: Media quality/burn speed/etc.Compression can also cause this.

    When I encounter any of those: Pixellation/freezing/jumping/skipping issues, it's usually stand alone players fault. Playing in the drive that produced that backup will show if it's a good backup or poor backkup.I use quality Verbatim/ty/hitachi/and ritek media-that'll prevent a lot of those issues.Along with a sensible 4x-8x burn.4x for the picky players.

    You can also run error scans on your backups using nero speed test and dvdinfopro. It'll show you the errors on your backups.All backup discs will have some errors,I try to keep them down to a minimum.

    Lots of things can cause these issues. Quality media can rule out a lot of these possibilities.
     
  8. ogunlade

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    My problem is the skipping. I just started having this problem after 200+ burns.

    I have Sony DW-D22A. The drivers are updated as of 2 months ago. I burn with Nero at 4x. I use Verbatim. I have not had any problems up to the last 4 burns. I don't multitask when I burn dvd. I restart after every burn. Any skips I find from playing the copy on the stand alone are also present on the Burner playback.

    I have come to the conclusion I either have to buy a new burner or perhaps it's the computer. I only have 512 RAM and about 10GB (out of 50GB) free space. I have made about 200 backups in about a year, the burner is about a year old. Perhaps the burner is burnt out, but it is only a year old!

    My question is, if you were me, what would be your next move?
     
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    ogunlade:

    The burner verifies those backups skip,just as the stand alone player's do.You've got a major problem.

    It can still be a bad batch of media,or burn speed factor. Some of the dvd-rw drives burn verbatim better at the faster 8x speed. My benqs confirm this.

    Try some of your older backups and see how they fare in both stand alone and sony dvd-rw drive. If they do the same,then maybe a lens cleaning-last resort though.

    If not,change media. Different spindle or different area of that spindle.

    Some other things to consider:

    Compression
    Fragmented harddrive-use windows to see if you need to run a defrag.
    Registry errors.
    burn those verbs at 8x and 2x and test in both drives.
    Try a different burn program to confirm those issues. I notice a difference between my nero backups and dvd decrypter backups.

    For Me,my next move: First off,I verfied the problem by using quality media/scanning backups for errors/ Burn to the fewest errors they produce. After that Drive Replacement.

    Last time I had issues,was my sony dvp-ns325 had quite a bit of wear and tear on it. Started freezing. Lens cleaning helped,until I slapped in my first dual layer disc. I ended up replacing it with an el-cheapo walmart special magnavox.


    I haven't encounter any trouble with freezing/pixellation/skipping on any of my 7 dvd-rw drives. Only no disc errors from certain backups/of certain formats/ off of certain crappy burners. Another reason why I strictly use Benq and booktype all my plus format backups to dvd-rom.

    If I encounter a player that doesn't play my backups-or has playback issues,and my pcs and el cheapo player has no problem playing them: Then it's the stand alone player/s fault!
     
  10. Wacthingu

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    i tried cleaning the dvd lense and everything is good now no more skipping on the backed up dvd's Thanks alot.
     
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    how do you clean the laser lens?
     
  12. ogunlade

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    From saugmon:
    I write this for all who, like myself, know enough only to be dangerous. I forgot class 101.

    I ran the defrag, first analysizing and reading the report. The two files I was trying to burn (resulting in skips) were each broken up onto over 4,000 fragments!

    I deleted as many files as I could and got the c drive to 30% free space. Then I ran the defrag 3 times, until almost no red was showing. It took that many times to finally defrag the files I needed. Then I burned and everything worked great. No new burner needed.

    Thanks saugmon
     
  13. saugmon

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    No problemo ogunlade. That list I posted is just a few of the possiblities for playback issues.

    I've got 4 pcs. 2 have dual hds so I have to defrag them a couple times a week,per harddrive. This gets overlooked by a lot of peeps who don't realize the burden you put on those harddrives when moving 4.2+ gb folders around.

    3 times?

    That sucker must have been heavily fragmented. I don't see very few success stories by defragging fixing playback issues 100%. I'm glad you got it solved.

    Good Luck and burn on!
     
  14. Wacthingu

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    I cleaned the lense and everything is working fine now. No more choppy videos. Thanks guys.
     

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