DVD Decrypters will only read at 2.1 Xs

Discussion in 'DVDR' started by budfrog, Jan 17, 2004.

  1. budfrog

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    I just bought a Pioneer DVR-S606. i have the setting to max then tried to force but still will only read at (2.1 x speed) at that either way. What am doing wrong i check the driver in regit and the key it there thanx
     
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    Hiya budfrog,

    If you want faster rip speeds, then rip from a DVD-ROM drive (with ASPI installed).

    It SEEMS (I am investigating this) that DVD-BURNERS are ARTIFICIALLY LIMITED to slow rip speeds by the manufacturers.

    I have had a quick look to see if there is a firmware available for your 606 that will speed it up, but there does not seem to be one at the moment.

    So, use a DVD-ROM drive, not the burner.

    Have Fun...
     
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  3. budfrog

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    thanks

    still a little confussed your saying to get more speed i should buy a DVD-ROM??

    also thanks for the quick reply
     
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    Yes, that is by far the most efficient way of getting a ripping speed increase AT THIS MOMENT IN TIME.

    With a DVD-ROM and an up-to-date ASPI layer installed you could rip a LOT quicker.

    Have Fun...
     
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    Its not just DVD burners, all newer DVD drives (from like 1999) on are set to only read DVD video files at a maximum of 2X the DVD forum demands that its members do this, the only way around this(besides buying a DVD-rom for before 1999) is to get a hacked firmware, google search it-I can't remember the address, that will allow you to rip DVD at maximum speed(theoretically) now I personally would not attempt to change the firmware of my DVD burner, its just too expensive to destroy just to get a faster rip time, luckly I had a DVD-rom before I recieved my burner and I changed its firmware. You will probably be able to change your burners firmware to allow faster ripping, but if you do you have the chance(with all hardware firmware changes) that the drive may be rendered useless, you may want to get a DVD-rom just to avoid hurting your burner
     
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    Hiya msb5150,
    can you post a link to this.
    I am looking into just this sort of thing myself at the moment.

    Interesting point, I bought a Pioneer DVD-121 recently, and it rips close to 12 x at its best: this is with standard firmware.

    Purchased in the U.K. (23 pounds)

    *EDIT*
    Just double-checked.
    Pioneer DVD-121 with standard firmware
    AspiCheck reports 4.71.2 installed
    Windows 2000 Pro with standard MS driver
    Ripping StarWars 2: Attack of the Clones (film only) using DVD Decrypter.
    Minimum rip speed 6.4x
    Maximum rip speed 10.7x

    Cheers.
    _X_X_X_X_X_[small]Life is just more of the same:[/small]
     
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    burners are only limited to this restriction. you can get the hacked firmware from rpc1.org i the firmware for the pioneer 105 and it works perfectly. I think the only "hack" is changing one variable to allow 12x read instead of 2x read.
     
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    Some readers as well are limited to the 2.1X limitation. I believe it kicks in when Macrovision protection is seen. I had a toshiba reader that did this. There are two ways to fix it. One-Firmware upgrade...do a google or search the forums for the link. Two-Buy a drive that doesn't have this restriction...I use Pioneer and Liteon for rips and they both work extremely well. Also remember that rip speed is slower (or at least for me) when ripping Dual Layer discs. On single layers I've gotten over 12X but on dual I get closer to 5-6X.
     
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    If there is hacked firmware available for dvd burners to increase rip speeds, I would BEWARE........it could screw up your burner BIG time.....and leave you very tearfull.......

    Go with a seperate DVDROM.........believe me it is cheaper to hammer your DVDROM than your burner just to rip dvd's........

    Just my 2 cents......
     
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    [bold]msb5150 wrote:[/bold]
    So....are u saying that my 12x rom drive, made in 2003, is set to read at no faster than 2x? How would u explain it reading at 10x during a rip? Lotsa folks' rom drives read faster than 2x without hacked firmware. Heck...they have the read speed printed right on em in most cases. I'd suggest u re-investigate your source of info.

    It's the writers that are set to rip at 2x, NOT the ROM drives. Anyone who does this for any length of time gets a separate DVD-ROM to rip with cuz they know they can get anywhere from 4x to 12x rip speeds that way. This allows u to save yer burner for one thing.....burning.

    As baa baa mentioned.....that's pretty scary advice yer handing out there concerning hacked firmware. I certainly hope nobody blindly follows yer suggestion. Doing that without being extremely knowledgable about the whole process could render a writer useless.
     
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