DVD+R DL Support Question

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  1. palladin7

    palladin7 Member

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    I stumbled onto this site hours ago and found it very informative. I've been in the electronics and computer field for nearly 15 years. I tried searching and reading through posts for the past couple hours but couldnt find what I was looking for unless I missed it. If so please accept my apologies for retyping a thread. Although I have quite a bit of knowledge on computers I am not shy to admit I have a problem or even a software problem that I may not understand.

    I am using Adobe Premiere software for editing movies from school (graduation in particular)in which I use to create the dvd's for burning. This year the event is much longer (over 4 hours) and instead of using several dvd's I went with the plan to use two DL discs in a presentable box for the students. One disc is graduation and a powerpoint with music that I converted to DVD using Powersoft PowerDVD. The second is just video and events, etc. The second disc is fine as it plays in all my dvd players. The first disc plays fine but when you play the powerpoint presentation that was converted it freezes in many places and is unwatchable. This is just the presentation as the rest of the dvd is fine. I re-copied it again this time using a different pass (I believe it was 7MB 2 pass) and it plays fine in the work dvd player but when I took it home it doesnt play in any of my 4 dvd players. One is less than 2 months old. I tried it in a dvd player in my office (original when dvd first came out) and miraculously it plays fine.

    Does anyone have any clue as to what I am doing wrong if anything. Is it a software or media issue? I have to get these done and I really dont want to put them on several dvd's. When I change the passes and lower the quality on Adobe it plays I believe but the presentation is not viewable.

    I am using Adobe Premiere Suite
    Memorex DVD+R DL Discs


    Thanks for ANY ADVISE!
     
  2. chubbyInc

    chubbyInc Regular member

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    I can't help you in regards to the powerpoint freezing, but you mentioned the disc won't play in some DVD players. What DVD Burner are you using?

    I had get a new burner because some of the DVD's wouldn't play in my newer Sony DVD player, but they would in the $30 special.

    Either update your firmware or get a newer burner.

    Can you make it a 3 disc presentation and just just the things that won't play well on to the 3rd single layered disc.
     
  3. JoeRyan

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    DVD+R DL media will not play in all DVD players for one of three reasons: 1) the player cannot handle the transition layer break; 2) the player will not recognize the disc as both recordable and double layer because the firmware does not recognize that both are possible (This is particularly true for older players. The best way to get around this is to falsify the indentification of the disc by changing its bit setting ID to "DVD-ROM" to fool the players; or 3) the recording drive is not ideally set up to record the DL discs you are using.

    None of these characteristics is present since disc 2 works well in all of your DVD players. It sounds as though the PowerPoint files are not being recognized as true video during encoding, and that is causing the problem. I am not familiar with putting PowerPoint into a DVD-video format; so someone else may be better to help there. You will probably get a number of answers telling you to switch to Verbatim DL--very good discs--but how that will correct a software problem is beyond me and beyond any logic.
     
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    chubbyInc Regular member

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    Verbatim and Memorex are both good.

    Fujifilm gave me problems before getting the new DVD burner.

    Does Powerpoint presentation work fine on a single layer disc?
     
  5. palladin7

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    The powerpoint works fine when I record it by itself on a regular dvd single layer disk. Thats what threw me on the DL disks. The length of the entire first disk is like 2 hours 8 minutes but yet too big to fit on a regular disk. When I use a DL disk I can burn all the way up to 6MB single pass-any more will not allow me to burn for insufficient space. Not sure what the Adobe is using to burn but the drive is a DVD-R/RW and DL. The software I use outside of the Adobe is Nero. I could probably use a third disc but I already have the covers and cases ready and printed for two disks. The second disc that does play is on a DL disk but worried it may not work on other players. If I change that it will be 4 or 5 disks as the second one is several hours. I feel like you stated it could very well be an issue with the presentation itself. Once compressed it plays terrible but the rest of the dvd looks fine. Next year I'm going to use 3 or 4 disks. Another note I didnt mention is that when I try and play this in my computer at home which is almost identical excpet for a DL burner it does not recognize the disk. It will also not recognize in a vhs/dvd stand alone burner I have as well. That says incorrect disk. I'll research some more to see how to trick into playing Rom.

    Thanks for all your replies.

     
  6. palladin7

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    Thanks for everyones help on this thread. I went ahead and used what was provided for me and from this point on I plan to use Verbatims. I went back to look at some old cd's I had that played extremely well even through rough wear and tear and behold-they were Verbatims. Never would have thought they would even play as there wasnt a single place on them that wasnt scratched.

    Anyway.

    I re-recorded the first disk at the highest rate it would support (which before it wouldnt allow me to play on many dvd players). I set the burner to DVD-ROM as you all suggested and IT WORKED! The dvd now plays on ALL my players AS WELL AS my computer at home which is not DL. The presentation no longer skips either-I assume since I didnt compress it so much.


    Thanks............

     
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    The words "Memorex" and "good" probably should not be used in the same sentence....
     
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    ...even when they made by Taiyo Yuden or Ritek or have the MCC code on them?
     
  9. chubbyInc

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    I guess everyone has different experiences with certain media formats
     

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