DVD (Region 2) ---> DVD-R?

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  1. BoogieNYC

    BoogieNYC Guest

    Hey...

    I have been banging my head against a wall trying to a) rip a DVD (region 2) into a format that b) will fit onto a DVD-R; and c) will play on a Region 1 player. I used SmartRipper but got a (non-audio) AVI file and a big .wav file, then tried DVD2One to rip and fit the movie onto a DVD-R. The Smartripper solution works to get the movie (albeit in two parts) onto my drive, but how do I make a DVD from these two parts? Incidentally, I did the DVD2One thing and burned the copy, but (duh) it wouldn't play on my player -- region issues. HELP (please) :)

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  2. yuedana

    yuedana Regular member

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    dvd2one is not a ripper, it is only a compressor.

    All the ripping programs will take out the region encoding, smartripper, dvd decrypter, dvd shrink.

    Compression doesn't care about region encoding--your disc probably needs compression.

    your player said region incompatibility when you put the burned copy in after you did the dvd2one thing? What happens when you put it in your computer dvd drive?

    I don't know smartripper very well but dvd shrink is based on the smartripper ripper. It will allow you to make a region free copy of a movie. It rips and compresses and is free. there are link to download at this site and here is a nice site-http://dvdshrink.info/guides.php
     
  3. malum

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    Irrespective of region issues your TV must be able to handle PAL to be able to play a disc that came from region 2 because they are all PAL.
    It is common for PAL TVs to be able to handle NTSC (the American TV system) signals but I don't know how common it is for NTSC TVs to be able to handle PAL signals (given that the USA doesn't know that the rest of the world exists)

    If your TV doesn't handle PAL then you need to convert the DVD to NTSC, and good luck with that :lol
     
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  4. BoogieNYC

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    Y:

    Thanks for the info...I after-the-fact took your advice and tried DVD Shrink...same result. It's _POSSIBLE_ that I burned the same set of VOB's twice (it's been a long damn day) but I don't think so...which leads me to malum's point that there may very well be a PAL/NTSC issue at play. If that's the case, then I'll be spending awhile searching for a program that can handle the conversion. And trust me, malum, I'm not looking forward to yet another hitch in the otherwise blissful result of watching my movie on my home player. I should have just bought one o' those Apex players that were "region-free" while I had the chance.

    BTW...the movie in question is called "Who Dares Wins" (aka The Final Option) and if nothing else, it's worth the effort. If you guys haven't seen it and like action movies, take a look. It's a keeper.

    Thanks for all your help...

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  5. malum

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    The one with Lewis Collins in it? :lol

     
  6. Discmania

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    I took a couple of discs burnt with DVD Shrink latest after using the 'all regions' option, to zone 3 from zone 2 and they would not play. Any other input on why this is so and why Shrink does not appear to be removing the region code correctly gratefully received. Both zones use PAL format.
     
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  7. Yuriv

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    PAL and NTSC are a real pain in the @$$

    You have to remember that regions are not devided strictly among PAL and NTSC countries. For example, Japan is region 2 (mostly PAL) and South Korea is region 3 (mostly PAL), but both countries use NTSC.

    If your DVD case does not specify whether or not it is PAL or NTSC, you can take your ripped VOBs and load them into DVD2AVI, which will tell you if the files are PAL or NTSC.

    If you need to convert, the best program I have found is Canopus Procoder. However, other have down it with a combination of TMPGEnc and BeSweet (see www.dvdrhelp.com for a guide on this process).

    Good luck...
     
  8. Discmania

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    Maybe you are confusing PAL/NTSC and regions. If a disc is region 2 it will not play anywhere outside of this region regardless of whether it is PAL or NTSC. Infact PAL/NTSC format in itself should not be a problem since virtually all DVD players now allow you to convert from one format to the other in playback at the click of a button. Therefore no need to rip and burn again. The problem remains when a ripping programme does not actually remove the region code when it says it will. Of course you can always buy a multiregion player, which in the UK you can buy for as little as £40 or get the 'all regions' software for your PC at little cost..
     
  9. Yuriv

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    I have heard that most European players will automatically convert to allow NTSC DVDs to play on PAL systems, but unfortunately that isn't the case here in the NTSC world.

    In all but the rarest cases NTSC DVD players do not do the conversion with "the flip of a switch" meaning that you actually have to re-encode the video if yo uwant to play it on your standalone.

    My last comment was not confusing PAL/NTSC and regions, but just to point out that your comment that "Both zones use PAL format" should not be taken too religiously, as it could confuse people that don't understand the difference.

    Unfortunately, however, BoogieNYC has mentioned the regions of his player and DVD, but has never specified whether the DVD he is trying to backup is PAL or NTSC.

    The bottom line is: if he lives in an NTSC country and the DVD is PAL, he will likely have to re-encode as only a small fraction of NTSC standalones will do the conversion.
     
  10. Discmania

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    Point taken - I never realised that NTSC could not turn quite so quickly to PAL but that is maybe because your TV system is also NTSC and which does not support PAL as easily as it does the other way round.
     
  11. BoogieNYC

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    Sorry for not keeping up (sooner) but I've been spending too much time at the office ;-)

    The DVD is PAL - and I used DVDShrink to remove the macrovision, so the problem has to be the PAL, not the region.
    If I get the chance at some point soon, I'll try Canopus and check out that dvdrhelp site -- thanks Yuriv.

    All I know is I could have saved myself a lot of headache and aggravation if I just never bought the damn disc in the first place :)

    Thanks to everybody for the help.

    To be continued...

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