DVD to DVD

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  1. Eibbor

    Eibbor Member

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    Is it possible to burn a movie onto a plain DVD, not a DVD-R,RW or RAM?
     
  2. Car.Mike

    Car.Mike Active member

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    I hope I'm reading this question correct :
    A plain DVD is either - or +. You burn what your burner can burn. If your burner does -&+ then take your pick which one to burn. At that point I burn what the Standalone Player likes.
     
  3. Eibbor

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    No what i meant was, in my van i have a DVD player, but it only play store bought dvd's, (i.e Lion King), but i was wondering if it was possible to burn to that format so i can play it on ANY DVD player
     
  4. ScubaPete

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    Hi Eibbor,

    You want to burn to a DVD +R or a DVD-R, whatever your DVD Player will play. An older player will only play a -R and not a +R. If you burn to a DVD RW most standalone won't play an RW or a RAM. You use a DVD RAM for data backup not for a DVD movie. Use a program like DVD Shrink to rip, edit and compress your DVD and a program like DVD Decrypter or Nero to burn.

    Here is a guide for backing up a DVD -

    When using DVDShrink ver. 3.1.7

    Before I start, I create a folder on my Desktop (i.e. All DVD Work) in that, I create a sub-folder with my movie’s name on it (i.e. All DVD Work/Pirates of the Caribbean) that’s where I put my work, where I can always find it later.

    When using DVD Shrink, after inserting your DVD, open Shrink, click “Open Disk”. Then, “Select DVD Drive” and click “OK”. After Shrink has opened your disc, anywhere from 30 seconds to 1-½ minutes you’ll then have a Green bar at the top of the page that will tell your DVD’s size. It has been adjusted automatically by DVD Shrink to fit on a single DVD - nothing for you to do at all, Kool Huh ? :D)
    If you wish to increase the quality of your backup you may simply check off those files you don’t want, I.E. Outer Mongolian or Eastern Himalayan Yak language, Director’s commentary or extra audio files – I keep ACS 2ch or ACS 5.1, that will give you stereo, most of the rest you can trash. When I say increase quality, many times it’s more theoretical, nothing you can really see with the naked eye for the most part.

    With that being done, let’s make sure that the box which says “Full Disk” is depressed (No need to cheer it up, it likes being depressed :). When you are ready to go, - -> click “Backup”. When the Backup box opens, under “Target Device” make sure your DVD Burner is listed in the window. Under “Target folder”, make sure the folder you made at the beginning with the movie’s name is there (that way you can always go back and burn a copy in the future). Now click “OK”.
    Last step: “STEP AWAY FROM THE COMPUTER !” Clear your throat and yell, “Burn Baby Burn ! ” “Let me hear you say it now, Who’s your Daddy Now ?
    Do not fold, spindle, mutilate, molest nor fondle the keyboard. GO AWAY

    Shrink download - http://www.afterdawn.com/software/video_software/dvd_rippers/dvd_shrink.cfm
    Shrink Guide -
    http://www.chrismccann.co.uk/dvd_shrink_3.htm

    A 30-day, free, fully functional Nero 6 download can be had here:
    http://www.nero.com/us/631939541422774.php

    cheers,

    Pete

    BTW, Welcome to our little Club :p)

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  5. Eibbor

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    NO see i know how to burn to a DVD+-R or +-RW, but my car DVD player doesnt play DVD R or RW. I want to know if it is possible to burn to a DVD that can be played by my car DVD player, not a +-R or RW
     
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    Nephilim Moderator Staff Member

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    Hi Eibbor,

    Factory movies are actually pressed and not burned so it's not possible to do what you're wanting.

    Some DVD players are very picky about what they play and I suspect that the one in your car isn't compatible with burned DVDs.
     
  7. ScubaPete

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    The guide I gave you will copy your DVD EXACTLY. By that I mean if your original plays then the backup will play. If you are already doing it correctly then the problem is not your car's player it is your media. Cheap media won't be read by a lot of players, there's only a few high end DVD's discs that you can use that will allow you to play it in anything. (BTW, there isn't any other "Format" that exist to try, just media.)

    Memorex is a good example, figures as high as 50% coasters have been reported (One member bought a stack of 50 and got 23 good burns.), not what I would call an impressive record.

    1. * Cheap media freezes, skips, stutters, pixelats, partially jams, may be rejected and lest we forget, our old standby, giving you the old just refuses to be recognized routine :-(

    Besides "Freezing", "skips" and pixelations, many times you’ll get a “cyclic redundancy error” or an "I/O error". This message can mean that your discs are scratched or dirty, it can also mean that your burner won’t accept your “cheap” media :-(

    Inexpensive media or even average media is great for text, Data, Spreadsheets, .Jpg and .Gif pictures and is good even for MP3 music BUT for DVD backups - BLAaaaaaT! It SUCKTH in an extremely Big-th way !

    2. A good grade media is needed for DVD reproduction !
    Ritek G04's or Branded Verbatim are what we’re looking for OR any media boasting “Advanced AZO Metal Dye”, this indicates a superior dye application, while they are sometimes a bit “pricey” they are acceptable.

    Prices online from Meritline.com have gotten Ritek G04 down below a dollar a disc -
    Question - If you make coasters out of 3 cheap or even average discs and good copies from 3 Branded Verbatim discs or 3 Ritek G04 discs - which ones then will you say are too expensive ? The 3 “Cheapo’s with no movie backup OR , the 3 recommended discs with a perfect backup on each disc ?

    Bear in mind, Memorex, Fuji, Sony, TDK, Orange Pack and others are quite good for your MP3 music, picture archives, Spread sheets, Data and your text backups and archives, they just don’t work well for DVD backups.
    Remember, for DVD backups, purchasing inexpensive media or even average media is a gamble, some people win, the majority of people lose, varying amounts but, they still lose :-(

    Let's try the right media for the job - just buy a 5 pack of what we recommend that will settle it once and for all - Don’t cheat though, buy the EXACT media we recommended -

    Using good grade media can guarantee you one thing to an absolute certainty, it surely cannot hurt.

    cheers,
     
  8. Doohickey

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    Hi,
    If your backups won't play in your van, then the solution is pretty simple...play the backups in your house and your originals in your van. You do own the originals, right? ;)
     
  9. michigan

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    As Pete said, if you have already tried burning a disc and it wouldn't play were you using a HIGH quality media? (Most of us recomend Ritek G04 or Verbatim for a good reason). What you thought was a high media may not have been if you haven't been doing this for a while. Brand names are not a good indicator of media quality in DVD's ie. memorex is usually a very cheap media but has high name recognition.
     
  10. ScubaPete

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    Here there Guys, got a new update, DataSafe G04's are made by Ritek BUT aren't to be trusted Sooo, we're now saying "Branded" Ritek G04's -

    And lastly, sit down young Grasshoppers, "Uncle" ScubaPete has posted this in the past but just got some backup proof this evening to support my thoughts -

    A time thing ?
    One thing I haven't addressed is the life of a backup made on an "el cheapo" disc. Points of fact, inferior discs have a tendency to "Break down" in time. I have had 25 to 30 backups that have refused to play after being stored for a year or more. I test all of my backups when they are burnt to be totally sure that there are no problems. "In olden times," before I knew any better, the Maxell and TDK discs (and any thing that was on sale) was what I used to use before I switched to Ritek and Verbatim, it is the cheap stuff that I have been experiencing trouble with. I noticed that backup DVD's I had been using refused to play in my standalone player and on my PC. VOB files wouldn't play either and other discs that I backed up about the same time would "Jam" part way through the movie. After switching to Verbatim and Ritek s, mostly the Ritek's because the price was right, I've not had 1 go "Flat" in almost 2 years. I still have some backups done on the cheap stuff and as time wears on I lose a few more as I attempt to check them. I say to you, why did a backup play fine in "01"and "02" then "fail" in "03 ?? Some that were done in "01" never made it till "02" and others done about the same time and "Failed" in "04"? All of the backups from "02" and "03", done on the "good Stuff" work fine today - not a single failure !

    As always, you have a choice -

    ScubaPete has posted this in the past but only came onto this study as of 04/27/04 to support my theory.

    Pete



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    4 Drives, JLMS DVD ROM, Nec 4X R/W ND-1300A, HP R/W 200j, AXV CD/DVD-ROM.
    GeForce4 Ti 4200-128MB, OS– XP, SP1.[/small]
     
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