I have been reading and asking questions as to the best hardware and software to allow me to make nice copies of my DVD's. It has been suggested to me by many people here to use the DVDShink or DVDDecrypter to DVD2one to Nero to make my copies. And I have been told on numerous occasions that compressing the movie will degrade video image, but that I wouldnt be able to see anything...WRONG! I have made 30 copies using various techiques as described above and on every occasion I was able to see what I can best describe as artifacts in the video. I have tried all sorts of variation with the DVD2One ie. variable vs. constant compression etc etc with the other softare packages as well. The crap I can see is most visible on the dark images - anyone!! could see this. I have 2 identical dvd players sony dv-ns752p's. i have set these units side by side into my sony trinitron flat screen thru two separate s-video cables. when comparing the orginals to the copies with pause etc. it is painfully obvious the garbage on screen with the current compression technology....no one could miss this crap... i have wasted my time and dvd's with this video compression crap that takes a spectacular image and screws it completly up.. thus. i am now using dvdxcopy, its slower but the end result is EXACTLY like the original - just the way it should be.. btw.. i use a pioneer 105 and ritek disc...thanks for that advice, i have yet to make a coaster..
I am pleased you like the software of one of our biggest affiliates. Please remember other people have different requirements/standards and may not be able to afford more expensive solutions. As I have said before : There is more than one way to skin a cat (or software programmer) Paul. I am back, can't you smell the fear?
I have been using FlaskMPEG, DVD2AVI, TMPGenc, and SmartRipper to fiddle with burning and for the most part the movies are only as good as compression and to simply store them in computer is easy enough in shape of mpeg's, my question is can I somehow later burn these back to dvd to get original quality for viewing through home theatre????Because to make them small enough to fit say 50 or something worth on a 120gig drive I/they do lose the original quality,,,which if I wanted to copy them back to a dvd, it would hardly seem worthwhile to do if not like original...I just dont know enough to make settings to do so and need some help,,so anyone willing to share knowledge with me I thank you very much.._X_X_X_X_X_[small]"If your not learning, then your not living."[/small]
What has your question got to do with this thread? Search the other threads or start a new one if the topic hasn't been covered. Paul.
Does someone want to explain to me how you take a 7GB movie, make an exact copy of it using DVD X Copy and put it on a 4.7GB disc?? Since that is what agenda is implying that DVD X Copy does, i'd just love someone to explain it to me. Im trying to get my head around the maths used to get 7GB into 4.7GB without compression. Doesn't seem possible. Maybe Agenda is only using it for DVD-5 movies, in which case DVD Decrypter would give you exactly the same results.
Actually, it is possible to take the movie of a DVD9 and fit it on a DVDR, only the problem is that you would need to remove the subs, unneeded audio tracks and extras. Then of course it wouldn't be an exact copy Paul.
Orphius, i am using 2 discs. 1 + 1 = 2 for the math challenged... yes, its 1 more than the the 1 it takes to make a shitty copy of a movie..but i will pay the .68 for the quality of the original...
I'm curious, agenda. Are you copying the entire disc with the other programs? If that's the case then yes, you're going to see artifacts. I just backed up Final Destination 2. The original DVD had over 8 GB worth of crap on it, which will give you noticable picture loss if you try to back up the entire disc. Using DVD2one I found that there were 2 copies of the movie crammed onto the disc, as well as 5 different audio tracks and all the other "bonus material." Once I got rid of everything that wasn't just the movie, I was left with a 3.8 GB movie. Often I'm not quite so lucky, but usually I can get the movie down to around 5 GB, and that level of compression isn't noticable; on either of my DVD players on either my Trinitron or my Sony projection TV. I'm glad you found a solution that works for you though.
On the argument of 2 versus 1, I will say this (I have said it before) To me it seems not a question of money, but a question of progress. If you want the old days of VCD/SVCD swapping half way through a movie, fine. But remember what outroar there was when Warner Bros releaased flipper DVDs, when they had the space and technology, without compromise to fit on a DVD9. The public did not want to flip over half way through Goodfellas. After all, you don't take an interval in the cinema. Paul.
well loaded, i am not in the cinema and there are a lot of times i would like to take a piss during those marathon movies... i personally dont think compression = progress. and i dont think its progress to take a dvd image and turn it into a vhs image for the sake of not getting your lazy ass off the sofa to change a disc...for godsake if your that lazy get a multidisc changer.. just my 2 cents...
Agenda, i would like to point out that i have an SXGA projector and project an image of around 100" for watching movies. At 20% compression using DVD Shrink, you would not notice a difference over the original. Also, i dont have the hassle of getting up and changing disc half way through. ALSO, i therefore save money on the software you have bought, save moeny on the DVD's you buy, since you buy double the amount, and can then afford to buy a projector. Im glad you are having success with DVDXCopy, but i'd also like to point out that DVD-9/10 to one disc is generally fine. If it doesn;t fit on one disc without too much compression, then ill just look after it better and not get is scraped. Oh and agenda, if your bladder doesnt hold up while watching a movie, the great DVD player inventors came up with an ingenious device on the remote control. Its called PAUSE. And one other thing, VHS quality??? Are you nuts. Obviously you are that knowledgeable on the DVD compression tools available, we cant blame as not everyone is Chris
Oriphus is right. There are so many different tricks to backing up your DVD that you can get most films to fit on a single disc with very little compression. Video and soundtrack is all you need, surely? On the odd occasion when you want to watch a special feature or when you simply MUST watch the film with Mandarin subtitles at the bottom just use your original disc. If you are willing to use two discs, why not put all the special features on one and film only on the other? It would be better than spoiling the mood of the film by getting up and fiddling about with discs right in the middle.
As been said by me as well as by others before, that in the many different ways one can back up your DVDs, it is best to realize that the best program really depends on what people need and what they don’t mind living with. >>>>> Here are some comparissons that you can work with… (keep in mind that this is only what I work with and may not be true for everyone) >>> If you are concerned with: 1) having (exactly) the same quality as your original DVD 2) keeping all menus and extras with the main feature 3) creating a backup of an episodic (tv programs per season) 4) having a “one-stop” software to back up your dvd that includes reading and burning and if you don’t mind: 1) having an 11-second “Warning, this is a backup” screen before your movie 2) fitting a single dvd’s main feature into two disks 3) not being able to make a backup of your copy (as opposed to making a back up of your original) then I would recommend: [bold]DVDxCopy[/bold] >>> If you are concerned with: 1) backing up only the main movie (forgoing its menus and extras) 2) fitting the main feature in only one disc 3) having a fast transcoding program (arguably the fastest) 4) having a “one-stop” software to back up your main movie that includes reading and burning and if you don’t mind: 1) a transcoded backup (some quality loss) 2) having an 11-second “Warning, this is a backup” screen before your movie 3) not being able to make a backup of your copy (as opposed to making a back up of your original) 4) not being able to make a backup of your episodics (tv programs per season) 5) not having menus then I would recommend: [bold]DVDxCopy Express[/bold] >>> If you are concerned with: 1) being able to choose whether to back up the main movie only or backing up the whole disc 2) fitting either the main feature or the whold dvd in only one disk 3) having a fast transcoding program 4) creating a backup of an episodic (tv programs per season) 5) being able to make a backup of your copy (as opposed to making a back up of your original) and if you don’t mind: 1) a transcoded backup (some quality loss) 2) needing to rip the movie with another software (DVD Decrypter, Smartripper, etc) 3) needing to burn with another software (Nero, RecordNow Max, etc) 4) needing to backup your movie using the full-disc method in order to have menus then I would recommend: [bold]DVD2One[/bold] >>> If you are concerned with: 1) being able to choose whether to back up the main movie only or backing up the whole disc 2) fitting either the main feature or the whold dvd in only one disk 3) creating a backup of an episodic (tv programs per season) 4) being able to make a backup of your copy (as opposed to making a back up of your original) 5) being able to rip and transcode with only one program 6) keeping the menus with the main feature (extra features are either working or blacked out) 7) using a program that you can get absolutely free and if you don’t’ mind: 1) a transcoded backup (some quality loss) 2) needing to burn with another software (Nero, RecordNow Max, etc) 3) a slower transcoding program (a little slower than the above three) then I would recommend: [bold]DVD Shrink[/bold] >>> If you are concerned with: 1) being able to choose whether to back up the main movie only or backing up the whole disc 2) fitting either the main feature or the whold dvd in only one disk 3) creating a backup of an episodic (tv programs per season) 4) being able to make a backup of your copy (as opposed to making a back up of your original) 5) being able to transcode and burn with only one program 6) having a farely fast transcoding program (arguably slower than DVD2One but faster than DVD Shrink) 7) keeping the menus with the main feature (extra features are either working or blacked out) and if you don’t mind: 1) a transcoded backup (some quality loss) 2) needing to rip the movie with another software (DVD Decrypter, Smartripper, etc) then I would recommend: [bold]CloneDVD[/bold] >>> `angelo * DVDxCopy Express refers to Version 2.X.X and not the more-current-but-still-bug-filled Version 3.X.X
Heads up. I have used DVDX Copy and works fine. Could not get past a 2x burn even useing Ritk G4's. I bought Roxio 6 Platinum off of Amazon for $66 and uninstalled Nero. My speed on the X Copy burns increased to 4x imediatelly. It has disc copier and will copy a burned dvd.
Im glad people enjoy DVDXCopy, it is a very good program. but at the end of the day im not in the business of paying for things when i can get a perfectly adequate DVD shrink for free. Thats my two cents
sorry i guess nothing but the fact that first thread in here was about making quality dvds that i could play in my standard dvd player in family room and be of same quality as original..also i was interested and reading seemed like the kind of people that would help me out or whatever, but thanks for once again proving me wrong_X_X_X_X_X_[small]"If your not learning, then your not living."[/small]
Frankstl- To answer your question, No. Once you compress them to be that small as an mpeg, you won't have as good a quality to burn back to a dvdr in order to play back in your home entertainment system. At least i think that's what you were asking. LOL. But as said before, dvd burners are going down in price now. It actually seems that you already have one if you're already planning to burn back to dvd. Y not try one of the free dvd back up softwares (like DVD Shrink) to see how well that suits you? Hope this helps! `angelo
Any solution for: 1.) You don't want this 11 sec crap 2.) You want to be able to copy copies 3.) You want your choice of compression quality loss or not 4.) You want your choice of just the movie (1 disc) or all the stuff (2 discs) 5.) You want to copy episodic dvd's What about some how cracking xcopy to remove that warning screen garbage?
The poster above said dvd shrink uses "a transcoded backup (some quality loss)" Is there a solution that does it all without loss?
