editing mpeg files, squeaking, crashing

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  1. sysyphus

    sysyphus Member

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    I videotaped our 8mm films, ran them into my computer in various clips via WinTV-PVR250 (external USB). The individual clips play just fine in Windows Media Player. Using editing programs to make a DVD is just about to drive me batty.

    Using Ulead Movie Factory 3 SE, after trimming in the multi-trim section, some clips (sometimes, but not always) stutter, jerk, and squeak. Occasionally the program crashes.

    Moving on to NeroVision Express, I can trim a clip at the beginning, but when I grab the slider at the end to move it, the program crashes and wants to send an error report to Microsoft.

    Same thing with Windows Movie Maker, program crashes during trimming, generates an error report.

    After careful consideration, I'm thinking this is an XP problem. I checked out event viewer and have 94 error incidents during the time period I was trying to accomplish this task. It tells me "The content index filter for file "c:\windows\internetlogs\zalog2004.12.31.txt" generated content data more than 8 times the file's size." In the details list under Symbolic Name says "MSG_CI_SERVICE_TOO_MANY_BLOCKS and goes on with explanation of "This even record indicates that the file listed did not get indexed because it generated too much data relative to the physical size of the file. The file will appear in the unfiltered list. This might be normal, or it might be caused by a problem in the filter being used." And User Action "Verify that the filter is configured correctly. If the problem is not caused by the filter, you can increase the amount of data Indexing Service allows per document. To do this, see the Microsoft Platform Software Development Kit for information about setting the MaxFilesizeMultiplier registry entry.

    If it is something relating to the Indexing Service, would it help to just turn it off?

    One thing I particularly don't understand is, I have made many DVDs from TV shows I've run into the computer, trimmed the video files, and then burned with no problems like this.

    Windows XP Home
    1.8gHz Pentium 4
    1 GB RAM
    16 GB free on HD

    I have used the search function here and read just about everything I can find even remotely relating to this, and haven't come up with an answer. Any thoughts, please???

     
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    rebootjim Active member

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    Turn off indexing, what a waste of CPU cycles.
     
  3. sysyphus

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    I decided to do just that, even before you posted. Maybe it was a bad move. After I stopped the service, I then went to back up some data on a DVD, left the computer for a while and came back to some kind of error message. I rechecked all the errors in event viewer and since they started at the beginning of May, I figured a system restore was in order. Started a restore back to April 30, came back to a black screen with a message such as Windows could not start . . .etc. Gave me 4 options including safe mode and last known working configuration, nothing worked.

    I'm now reformatting. ha! My hard drive was partitioned. The first message told me out of 28004 mb, there was 28003 free and said the drive was either damaged, out of space, or contained an unknown file system. Regarding the errors mentioned in my first post about the file size being 8 times the original size, I wonder if turning off the indexing service caused the drive to be overwritten with excess data? I don't know. After all the pieces get put back into place, if the editing software still doesn't work, guess I'll take a hammer to it!
     
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    MovieFactory and NeroVision Express are really authoring programs, and not ideally suited to editing, even though they will do it.

    I highly recommend you check out http://www.videoredo.com to edit mpeg2 files, rather than using the authoring programs. You can do a trial of the software, which has the best support I have ever seen (regardless of the size of the company).

    VideoRedo does not re-encode the video you edit, thus it is extremely fast. The software is so easy to use that you won't really even need to read the help files. You just cut out what you don't want (with frame accuracy) and then save the file. Your original is retained safely during the process as well. A visit to the forums there if you have any questions is always a pleasant experience.

    If you have not patched MF 3 SE, do so as soon as possible. It is known to have crashing issues, file size issues, and to re-encode compliant video even though you say not to, unless patched.

    16 GB free is not much workspace when converting DVD compliant files by the way, MF 3 SE creates lots of large files while converting, that are not deleted upon exiting the program.

    It does sound as if you have some Windows issues to work though.
    I just wanted to let you know how someone else does what you are doing.
     
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    LivnDGirl, yes, I did patch Movie Factory 3 SE. And after making a couple of DVDs I noticed my hard drive shrinking, found those residual files left over in the 'convert' folder and was always careful to delete those after a project.

    Since I never had a problem before I started working on the 8mm transfers, I am wondering if I caused the whole situation myself. DVD Santa wouldn't let me import the files because the audio wasn't compliant. There WAS no audio on these. When we filmed them to VHS, the camera was picking up the sound of the super 8 projector, so when I ran them through the capture device, I didn't hook up the audio cable. Maybe no audio at all would mess up the files, I don't know.

    Thank you for the recommendation and the link to videoredo. I will be making good use of that.
     
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    Something had drastically gone wrong.
    Good time for a format/reinstall anyhow.
    (Check out Norton Ghost to save yourself some headaches, then turn off system restore!!!)
    I prefer Cuttermaran for editing mpg's. It only works with elementary streams, but it's free, and will work with AC3...
    Not sure about videoReDo. Another extremely good editor is Womble (either mpeg-vcr, or mpeg-wizard).
     
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    Update. Yes, something drastically went wrong. Reformat went fine, couldn't get some files to install during setup. After lots of internet investigation, could be bad disk, bad CD ROM, bad power supply, bad hard drive, bad RAM. Process of elimination, knew it wasn't the first two, took out one of the RAM chips, same thing, replaced it, took out the other one, VOILA! Setup proceeded nicely, everything seems to be working fine. Just bought that chip several months ago, went south on me, I guess. I do now remember thinking it quite odd when working in an often used graphics program and getting an out of memory message a couple of weeks ago.

    Remains to be seen if I will still have the original problem of stuttering, stopping, crashing, as it will take me a while to reinstall everything and resume my projects.

    Do want to thank you both for your suggestions and especially the recommendations on the mpeg splitters. Will check them out and definitely give it/them a workout. Thanks for your help and patience.
     
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    Glad to hear you sorted out the issue. Always nice to have closure.
    Happy burning!
     
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    Drat, I couldn't get Cuttermaran to accept my file. I still believe black holes are where God divided by zero, though! VideoReDo, all I can say is WOW! This is exactly what I was looking for! Now if I can get all these trimmed (eventually) and Ulead will burn the DVD without crashing. New hope, I'm excited! Thanks, LivnDGirl!
     

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