hi everyone I am having problems backing up Grand Theft Auto Vice City. i backed up the install cd perfectly. But i am having a problem with the play cd. according to both clonyXXl 2.0.1.4c and 2.0.0.6 the play cd is not protected by anything or its an unknown protection but after the 2.0.1.4c searches the install folder it detects securerom*new* v4.x. Both versions however detect that the install cd is protected by securerom*new* v4.x. i was able to back the install cd with Alcohol120% with settings to securerom*new* (not securerom*new*v4.x) and it itworked but nothing worked for the play cd. i tried securerom*new* and securerom*new* v4.x. Also its not possible for clone cd to burn securerom*new*v4.x. it showed a messegae that said that and it also showed 10 skulls which means impossible i did get the image to work perfectly of the play cd but i cant make a backup cd. any help
hi i have done this game! BOTH discs are protected!!!! securom v4.84???????????? i used a blindwrite BWA on both discs! the one on the downloads is for disc 1 so i renamed it for disc 2 to the volume labels of course and all good i read at 4x and burnt at 8x to get it i think - faster had CRC errors!!! works on many cdroms! very nice...
Thanx Rotary for your help but i am having problems with BlindWrite now. Can you tell me how you backed up the game with BlindWrite? Thanx -eLeCTR0n
by the way how are you making BWA files? i only see BWT with BlindWrite. I think i will need those files but it would be better if i can learn how to make them myself. Thanx -->eLeCTR0n_X_X_X_X_X_[small] "if you're smart enough to get away with it, then you deserve to do it"[/small]
hi ok, you will need to extract SUBCODES! and NOT authorise the use of alternative read method! for sercurom! if safe disc then its the other setting! ok, dump the image! to any folder! then you will need a BWA file which is a file generated by the BWA builder! extra program to blindwrite! usally the bwa builder makes crap files to add in to the folder where you dumped the image, so we all download them! hence where mine came from! so in afffect you dump the image which will create 3 files! BWI BWS BWT then you add to folder BWA !!!! then burn! ok now you can use autoplay or not you must tick it so all cdroms can read the copies! if you dont tick it! then it can only be read from cdrom/dvd drives and NOT! cd-rw! Hope that helps? any help on this just write here! Cheers.... EDIT: AUTOPLAY is an emulation - as long as blindwrite program is loaded they will play!_X_X_X_X_X_[small]XP 1700 TBred [Fan 28-Idle/32-Load/23M] [o/c 2004mhz = 12X167/33 = FSB-334mhz] A7V8X SATA150/RAID 2x80 gig [Bios 1011] HERCULES 3D PROPHET [9700 Pro] DX9/CAT-3.1 VIA 4in1 Hyperion v445] XMS Corsair Platinum pc3500 2x512 1024 meg 2x512[/small]
hi the BWA builder is part of blindwrite! now when burning the disc it should ask you if you want to make a BWA after image dump! but if not its in the start menu! under blindwrite link! and its called: PHYSICAL CD CHARACTERISTIC DUMPER! do you know what a good file should look like? if not have a look at a few! then you will know if yours is good! also i think you can rebuild these bad peaks in the file with twinpeaks program... only some cdrom/cdrw drives make good files of BWA! my liteon/plextor/samsung DO NOT! i get mega big peaks! but the liteon is an excellant burner otherwise! if you want the files to look at what you need to achive please pm me! let me know if your backup works? thx.......
Here are some bwa files for you to download. Download at least 2 or 3 different ones as not every one will work. http://www.copybase.net/ Shoey
What do i do after i download the BWA file? and when u said download 2 or 3 do u mean download the same GTA VC file 2 or 3 times or there are different files? thanx all -eLeCTR0n_X_X_X_X_X_[small] "if you're smart enough to get away with it, then you deserve to do it"[/small]
hi these are mine i uploaded to my site!" http://www.hairobics.fsworld.co.uk/GTA-BWA.zip they work and look at the graph for future reference! put them in the same folder you dumped the image to !!!!
very nice Rotary. thanx what should be the writing mode when using BlindWrite to backup GTA VC? it gave me an error when selecting SAO Raw. thanx Rotary and Shoey. -eLeCTR0n
Write mode= DAO pw m8. Label 1 disc "install disc" and backup the SecuROM 4.8.x protected cd (no bwa file in folder) then label another cd "play disc" (bwa file in image folder). Burn 8x and you're good to go. Install the original cd's first then try and play the backup(s) from any rom. Shoey
hi hey shoey hows it dude? ok, i used a bwa on both discs as they both have the same protection! but shoey is right too! and i put autoplay in so to work on any cdroms! so i have the first disc and the second disc just 2 not disc 1 install and 2 for the second a play disc and a normal play disc... i think i lost myself there?? umm... help i just got out of bed! i installed game with copies! and played!_X_X_X_X_X_[small]XP 1700 TBred [Fan 28-Idle/32-Load/23M] [o/c 2004mhz = 12X167/33 = FSB-334mhz] A7V8X SATA150/RAID 2x80 gig [Bios 1011] HERCULES 3D PROPHET [9700 Pro] DX9/CAT-3.1 VIA 4in1 Hyperion v445] XMS Corsair Platinum pc3500 2x512 1024 meg ENERMAX PSU 550watts [/small]
Hi there good buddy Rotary! [bold] Autoplay support [/bold] is needed for backing up Safedisc 2.9 and "some" Safedisc 2.8 pc game titles (pre-gap). Certain dvd\cd-roms have the ability to bypass the Twinsector cd scheme of the SecuROM 4.8.x protected cd and can actually play the backup (install disc) with no problems whatsoever.. (Say what?) Yup, my Litey LTD 165\166 and my Polaroid BurnMAX48x [bold] needs no bwa file [/bold](install disc), thus the reason why I stress to many people at this forum to get the Lite-ON LTD 163\165\166 DVD-Roms. These bad boys defeat SecuROM 4.8.x, Safedisc 2.9, extract (rip) dvd's at about 11-12x, extract (rip) audio about 22-23x with superior dae as well. I recently found the Litey LTD 166S DVD-Rom at Wally-Mart for 48.99 and purchased one for my secondary pc.. It is safe to create an "install disc and a play disc" as your install disc may not spin up on other roms if you own a secondary or 3 pc's. Shoey___X_X_X_X_X_[small]Certified Computer Technician http://www.afterdawn.com/general/legal.cfm Forum Rules^ Mobo: KT4VL MSI-6712 CPU: AthlonXP Barton 2.5 Ram: 512 SD-DDR (PC-2700) nVidia GeForce4 MX440-8x Maxtor ATA\133 80 gig hd [/small]
ok i tried what u told me. i was trying to copy the Play CD. i put the BWA file in the same folder as the image i set the Write mode= DAO pw speed = 1x i checked autoplay i also used the blindwrite scaner to scan the image after the burning the image. i tried to install the game to test it. after inserting the Play CD it gave me a Component Transfer Error is says "Data Error (cyclic redundancy check)." when i read the log file for BlindWrite i found "using unknown Cd writer " many times. please help
Hi i too had "CRC" burning at full speed! so you read at 1x ? what speed did you burn at? Thx....... also you say this= "using unknown Cd writer " this seems odd? dont know if this is the problem?
