help avi/mpeg to dvd conversion, not noob stuff

Discussion in 'MPEG-1 and MPEG-2 encoding (AVI to DVD)' started by rover48, Dec 5, 2005.

  1. rover48

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    Right, firstly let me please state my main priority is to convert an avi/mpeg to dvd as quickly as possible.

    I have tried the following conversion software:

    Dvd Santa - Too slow

    Nero vision express - Too slow and dislikes some avi's

    winavi converter - The quickest but astronomical bit rate causes problems with some dvd players

    Sonic DVD - very fussy as to what avi's you use

    Tmpgenc - the slowest in the world

    Virtualdub - too slow

    VSO divxtodvd - very promising but have run into problems and would like advice please:

    Ok so in reference to VSO divxtodvd the version i'm using is 1.99.23. I converted 1 70min avi in 35mins and all was well however after buying the full version it would now appear that that was a one off. The problem is that after converting an avi file the audio goes out of sync gradually until by the end of the movie its around 3 secs out, i'm not converting TV formats so the frame rate is the same as the source and the source does NOT have an audio sync problem, now I HAVE FOUND THE ANSWER TO THE PROBLEM you just have to decompress the audio in the avi to PCM. Which as i found out does definately put the audio in sync when you convert it to dvd but the size of the avi is increased and i am now finding that in around 50% of the avi's i try to convert that during the conversion process windows tells me i'm running low on VIRTUAL MEMORY and so dvdtodivx grinds to a halt about 75% of the way through the conversion process.

    Now i have an AMD 3400 64, 1gb ram, 250gb hard drive, my computer is not running any other programs in the background or foreground, i only get this virtual memory problem with avi's that i have decompressed the audio in prior to conversion. So i guess its something to do with the file size but it certainly points to a problem with the software if on a system with specs (i know its not the greatest) such as mine the software can not handle a 2gb file without draining all the system ram.

    Ok now the plea for help. So theres my problem, i like VSO dvdtodivx because of the speed and reasonable quality if someone can recommend software that i dont know about that is almost as quick or quicker then please do, if someone can spot where i may be going wrong then i'm greatful.

    I would be particularly interested to here from the other thousands of people who must be using vso divxtodvd to convert avi's and who apparently are not having audio sync problems if so how is this not a problem as it would appear that VSO divxtodvd has audio sync issues when dealing with COMPRESSED audio in AVI's or maybe issues with a particular audio compressor that the avi has been encoded with.

    THANKS FOR YOUR HELP
     
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  2. nichepro

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    i am using vso divxToDvd also but version 199.60.20 and have not had the problems you are experiencing. i have downloaded avi's from many torrent sites and had this problem once with a bad copy from the original conversion to avi. Are you having this problem with every avi to dvd file you convert?
    where are you getting your avi files from....? have you tried using ADOBE premier to sync the avi format audio? Or is your problem only in the final conversion to DVD?
     
  3. rover48

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    Hi

    The audio is in sync on the original avi's, on the dvd the audio gradually gets further and further out of sync as the movie progresses so i ask what logically makes VSO do that, could it be that its converting frame rates i.e having to convert 29.97 fps to 25fps? the answer is NO it isnt, the frame rate that is in the avi is the same as the output. So by chance i was reading on this forum and i read someones post about how most avi's have compressed audio i think he said mp3 and that if you dont decompress the audio first then most avi's will be out of sync when you convert it to dvd. If thats the case then surely most people are having to decompress the audio first?

    In answer to your question the avi's are from torrents also and sometimes p2p, obviously there would be no point in using adobe premier because there is no problem with the sync in the avi.

    Your other question: I have the problem with every avi that has audio that needs to be decompressed first to PCM. Basically i put each avi in the audio decompresser software if it says it doesnt need compressing then it normally turns out fine when converted to dvd but when it has to be compressed then the file gets larger and vso divxtodvd uses all my virtual memory and grinds to a halt.

    So in a nutshell if the avi has compressed audio in it then it will go out of sync when i convert it to dvd, if i decompress it first then VSO divxtodvd stops three quarters of the way through because the system has run out of memory (not on all decompressed avi's but most)

    I realise that if sat in front of tmpgenc for the rest of my life or virtual dub then i would be able to rectify the problem but i have alot that i need to do so i have place the onus on speed rather than quality i do not want to spend the whole the day converting 1 avi.

     
  4. andmerr

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    so what is your virtual memory setting s then?
     
  5. rover48

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    good question, in 'performance options' under 'computer management' the 'memory usage' section 'programs' is selected rather than 'system cache' and under the 'virtual memory' section 'total paging file size for all drives' is 1536mb

    When i click 'change' next to this it says 'intial size' is 1536 and 'maximum size' is 3072mb

    Basically i have left windows to it when it comes to this field, would you suggest i changed anything??

    Thanks for your input

    EDIT: i should of said that under virtual memory 'custom size' is selected which is where it says initial size 1536mb and maximum size is 3072mb

    Under 'total paging file size for all drives' it says 'recommended' 1534mb and 'currently allocated' is 1536mb
     
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  6. scf_au

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    Dear rover48,

    If you like VSO, my best advice would be to try some other versions first. On this site, for example, you'll find the older freeware version and the latest shareware version:

    http://www.afterdawn.com/search/search_results.cfm#results

    Give them a try to see if the sync. problem would just go away.

    Good luck!
     
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    Sorry, double post, connection problems.
     
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  8. andmerr

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    slow server isnt it?????????

    Your virtual memory settings are the same as mine?????
    have to ponder this one......
     
  9. rover48

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    sorry for the delay,

    Thanks scf_au for the suggestion, i tried the old free version but it presents exactly the same problems: audio out of sync when i dont decompress the audio in the avi before converting to dvd and the same virtual memory problem when i do decompress the audio prior to converting.

    Interestingly Winavi converter doesnt have the virtual memory problem when i convert the same large decompressed audio avi so i would suggest its certainly a bad bug with the VSO software its just a shame winavi doesnt give the same quality.

    So what next? does anyone know enough about virtual memory settings to reccommend tweaking it to see if that solves anything?

    Many thanks
     
  10. andmerr

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    have you tried mainconcepts mpeg encoder, very nice quality this one does.
     
  11. rover48

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    I have looked at mainconcept before i think but i found it was just too slow.

    I was fishing around on the net the other night and i found another forum where either 1 person or several people was complaining of the same virtual memory problem in vso divxtodvd and questioning the programme coding and one of the testers for the software was replying back saying its a very isolated thing and doubts if it will be rectified in any coming releases and doubted that there was problem with the software. I will see if i can find the site for those interested.

    Mean while i'll dust off winavi coz its the only thing that can do the job quick.............but yes its inferior quality
     
  12. andmerr

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    isnt there another new release coming out in january for divx to dvd
     
  13. rover48

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    i dont know, do you any of the fixes or updates?
     
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    try WinDVD Creator, i have used it many times and have found it particularly fast compared to some other tools i have tried...
     
  15. scf_au

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    I have used different versions of VSO but haven't experienced this problem. So maybe you should find another program to your liking.

    Good luck!
     
  16. andmerr

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    the only problem that i have ever had with this program is that the free version said that it couldnt decode or find a decoder for some of the newer films available, however with the paid version that was remedied
     
  17. shiroh

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    quenc, great for low bitrates. it can be really fast or it can be really slow, depends on setting.

    HCenc haven't test latest release (0.16), but earlier releasse is slower than quenc. you can say it put out better video than quenc on certain scenes.

    both need avisynth
     

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