Help with dvd9 to dvd 5

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  1. Gage

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    ive posted this here as i think i put in wrong thread sorrry

    Hi room im slowly moving through my way of guides etc and i finally understand everything but (theres always a but)im having problems. I do all the stages ie the calculations etc and i work out that the rempeg scale factor should be 80% I do want to keep everythn the dvd is only 5.75G the stuff i want to keep ie vobs 2, 3 and 4 only add upto 133MB.

    I rempeg the movie after all the ripping process (DVD decrypter) and i used 80% encoding with rempeg. the resultant m2v size becomes 3.63GB but then after running through ifoedit and repointing vobs etc and the new set of vods become expanded to 4.65Gig then when adding the original menu etc (ie the 133mb prev mentioned) of course well over I then thought ok to hell with the calc for rempeg and said ill go drastic and encode to 65% of original file but to my horror after 15 hrs i still had 18 hrs left am i missing somthing is it right that the m2v file is to increase as lrge as it did ie from 3.6 to 4.65gig i cant wait that long obviously 65% is going to take along time im sure someone has said in forum that they used 80% and evrything was ok

    In need of finally cracking this one I need that last point to get me fully fledged in the process

    reagards

    Gage
     
  2. malum

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    When you run it through IFOedit you are stripping out the extra audio channels you don't need aren't you? ie do you need the algerian dubbed version.
    Also remove all the subtitles.

    if you keep just the english (assuming you want english) 6 channel sound then it will fit fine.
     
  3. Gage

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    Wheni use ifo edit its only coming up wit the english there are no other options so I did not have to strip anything but I have done a recalc on the file the main movie was under

    CFFL
    D:\panic\Vts_01_1.vob
    D:\panic\Vts_01_2.vob
    D:\panic\Vts_01_3.vob
    D:\panic\Vts_01_4.vob
    D:\panic\Vts_01_5.vob
    D:\panic\Vts_01_6.vob
    (above is my cffl txt file)



    And the current size of all the vobs within the original rip to HD were of size 5.62Gig and i now realise that 80% of that would be 4.5Gig hence to big. Therfore i think should have done it at 70% which would give me a file size of 3.93gig which when added back with originls etc would be fine.
    I am now trying to rencode but seems like ifo edit is now running real slow like teeling me its going to be 40hrs have i set somthing wrong cant wait that long and also am i now right in thinking that your m2v file will get bigger when re pointed becuase i told u my m2v from my first attempt was only 3.7 but after remux the new vobs were 4.7 somthing

    Reagrds Gage and thanks for reply
     
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    The m2v file doesn't have the audio in it so it's not the finished size
     
  6. Gage

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    I make the bitrate for re-encoding that 5064000

    ok thats fine i should be able to easy do it with 5064000 but i want to keep all the menus so is tehre somthing else that i can do and for some reason now when i tried to encode at 70% it took 24hrs and was still only 42% complete i had to stop cant leave my computer tied up for that long impossible for some reason my rempeg is running slow now have i to change somthing its too slow i mean i have p3 1 gig with 256 on windows 2nd addition with 120gig of HD space whats the problem or is it the fact that 70% takes longer not 3.5 days am i missing somthing?


    reagards everyone and thanks for help Gage
    I will do this lol
     
  7. malum

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    I would guess at around 20 hours + for that.

    Why do you want to keep the menu if yopu have strippd out everything but the film? The menu won't point at anything
     
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    well i guess if the rest only added to 133mb i could keep them all or am i missing somthing
    ?
    then i caould have the full working film?

    thanks again
     
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    If you don't strip out the extra audio you are adding some 300MB per audio stream for a start.
    The menu VOB might only be 133mb but all the subtitles and extra audio will be a fair bit.

    I can't understand why you only have english in IFOedit, there should be a whole bunch of other language options. I guess there may not be though on a region 1. I am used to region 2 where the discs are made for the whole of Europe. However there should be commentaries etc on it

    As for the slowness of the encoding...

    Defragment the drives and put the swap file on the other drive from the operating system.

    Is it Panic room?
    Is it region 1?
    Is it the superbit version by any chance? I imagine that this would add a good deal of time to the reencoding as each image has more information in it. I don't know I've never done a superbit.

    Audio:
    ENGLISH: Dolby Digital 5.1 [CC]
    ENGLISH: Dolby Digital Surround [CC]
    ENGLISH: DTS 5.1 [CC]
    FRENCH: Dolby Digital Stereo
    Subtitles:
    English, French
    Release Date: 9-17-2002

    You have 3 extra audio streams and two lots of subtitles to get rid of.






     
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    oops





     
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    Yeah my system wel rempeg is running real slow. the first pass when i did panic room was real fast took 16 hrs, now its coming up and like say 38 hrs for only 85 % rencode. I now understand evrything but my new problem is now this rempeg running slow why ok b4 and now like snail and i know takes along time but now its running at lik 800 - 900 ms per picture and the result time is like 48hrs for a 107 min film was ok b4 now slow.

    Forgive my ignotrance but waht is swap file? maybe i dont understand evrything

    thanks agin for all your help and i think there is only english as its a rental version

    regards Gage

    tahnks so much will i ever get there????

     
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    The swap or pagefile is part of the hard drive that windows uses when it runs out of RAM. Having it on another physical drive speeds up everything that uses it (make sure the other drive is on a diferrent IDE channel from the first)

    I forget how to move it in Win 98, but a quick search of google will tell you.

    You might also want to re-encode from one drive to another rather than to the same drive to see if that makes a diferrence.
     
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    im not sure if i should mess with swap it comes with some harsh popups saying could damage system if u dont know what u r doing. Any how i tried to copy from one drive to the other and should be fin my drives are set to one as primary master and the other slave. Im doing all the work on the slave drive encoding and saving>

    But why was it fast before well only 15 hrs and now like at least doule its saying for estimated time is my processor shagged? (uk term for borke) what do i do

    I think i will just but the ripped ones of my pal for a five pound fee each i cant afford for my pc to be held up for that long.

    my spec

    windows 98SE
    256 ram
    P3 1 G processor
    one 40 gig and one 80 gig both 7200 rpm ATA
    pioneer A04

    Im on verge of giving up or should i do a whole new set up reinstall windows etc

    tahnks for evrything this is the best forum ive been too

    reagrds Gage never been beaten but now my day has come lol thanks
     
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    having one drive as slave and one as master on the same IDE channel is no good. they need to be on diferrent IDE channels.

    I have no idea why it is slower than it was, have you defragmented your drives recently?
     
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    i have all my drives on one ide and the HD on the other u think i should cable all the drives and on hdd on primary slot and then one HD on another slot.

    But how was it ok then it went shit or was i just lucky that once if u think it will make it better its no hassel to change my drives arround so that one is on sepersate ide

    Shall i tyr that ??

    thanks again
     
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    Well it might not help this but it should be done anyway.

    IDE 1: HD1 and CD ROM
    IDE2: HD2 and DVD-R
     
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    ill try that in a mo and let u know
    cheers
    Gage
     
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    ok its beaten me now i have all on seprate channels still its lower if anything i have like now encoding at 1257ms per picture which equals along time.

    thanks for all your help i give up

    thanks again gage
     

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