How do I make 'Tomb Raider Legend' fit on a DVD-5 ?

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  1. atomick

    atomick Regular member

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    Hi Guys, I have an ISO file of 'Tomb Raider Legend' size: 4.67GB that is to big to fit on a 4.38 DVD (DVD-5).
    I can open the ISO; What files do I need to delete to make it fit and play on a DVD-5?
     
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  2. atomick

    atomick Regular member

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    The files are:

    layer1.000
    layer2.000
    layer1.001
    layer2.001
    layer1.002
    layer2.002
    layer1.003
    layer2.003
    layer1.004
    layer2.004
    layer1.005
    layer2.005
    layer1.006
    layer2.006
    layer1.007
    layer2.007
    layer1.008
    layer2.008
    layer1.009
    layer2.009
    layer1.010
    layer2.010
    layer1.011
    layer2.011
    layer1.012
    layer2.012
    layer1.013
    layer2.013
    layer1.014
    layer2.014
    layer1.015
    layer2.015
    layer1.016
    default.xbe
    att1.xmv
    att1_w.xmv
    att2.xmv
    att2_w.xmv
    att3.xmv
    att3_w.xmv
    death.xmv
    death_w.xmv


    These are all the files from the open ISO. What files can i delete to make it fit onto a DVD-5?




     
  3. micky124

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    why did you double post ? people will check them out so you dont have to do it
     
  4. atomick

    atomick Regular member

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    I didn’t double post, the other post was started by user: singh and has a different title (kind of similar though I see how you made the mistake).
     
  5. KC36330

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    it was recommended that:
    att1_w.xmv
    att2_w.xmv
    att3_w.xmv
    death_w.xmv
    default.xbe_orig

    all be deleted, i only deleted default.xbe_orig and it worked.

    kc
     
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  6. atomick

    atomick Regular member

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    Hi KC36330, thanks for the help. One question though, I always thought the default.xbe file was an important file and would stop the game working if deleted. What is the purpose of that file?

    I made an ISO without the default.xbe and the ISO was still to big: 4.66GB
     
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  7. micky124

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    default.xbe is the xbox dashboard as far as i know it updates it if its needed
     
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    atomick Regular member

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    I tried making an ISO with the files - att1.xmv, att2.xmv, att3.xmv & death.xmv removed but it still is to big: 4.59GB and Nero Burning Rom will not burn it!

    I kept the widescreen files (the files with _W.xmv) instead of the Full screen ones because they are smaller in size (apart from death.xmv) as shown below:

    Widescreen / Normal TV
    att1.xmv 17.7MB / 19.1MB
    att2.xmv 17.8MB / 18.8MB
    att3.xmv 17.MB / 20.7MB
    death.xmv 23.7MB / 19.7MB


    Can anyone help out there?
     
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  9. atomick

    atomick Regular member

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    I have been doing some research and you need the default.xbe file for the game to run. The default.xbe is the main exe to start the game. Probably not a good idea to delete it!
     
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  10. KC36330

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    all games ripped to HD are given a new default.xbe file and the ORIGINAL is called default.xbe_orig delete it and then make sure you [bold]CROSS-LINK IDENTICAL FILES[/bold] you didn't cross-link is why your ISO is still to big. after you delete the default.xbe_orig and cross-link it'll be less then 4.3 gig

    kc
     
  11. chrisfunk

    chrisfunk Regular member

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    Hi

    what is cross linking?

    (if there is a link to somewhere that explains it, that would be great, I know this aint the place to go into detail about that)

    cheers
     
  12. chrisfunk

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    sorry, didn't do my research first, i just spoted the tick box in quix, I;m gonna try it now.
    Still don't know what it does but do i really need to as long as it works?

     
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    chrisfunk Regular member

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    KC

    I have looked in the folder on my pc where the games files were ripped to, and I can see the "default.xbe" file, but no sign of a "default.xbe_orig" file.

    Do you mean this orig file is only created once you ripp to the XBOX hard drive? If so, are you then copying the ripped files from xbox to PC, rather than from the game disc in the xbox to PC like I am doing?

    I tried deleting the default.xbe file anyway and made the ISO in quix with cross link turned on and sure the ISO fitted on the DVD but the xbox is saying disc "unknown" so I'm sure I have done it wrong.

    How do I get the game file to a state where i have these 2 xbe files? thanks!
     
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    There is a DVD-5 version floating around out there you could DL.
     
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    that's no fun is it!! haha (good point though i could do that)

    well, i have the game on my xbox hdd and it's working so at least i can play it, would be nice to get it onto dvd though
     
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    delete:

    att1_w.xmv
    att2_w.xmv
    att3_w.xmv
    death_w.xmv

    and then cross-link on rebuild, should fit. myself i use DVD2XBOX and it always has the _orig file which can also be deleted if need be. you have to have a default.xbe when you compile the disk, this is the executable to start the game, without it your disk is useless.

    kc

    EDIT: on the cross-linking, it simply takes files that are identical (from the first and second layer of the image) and cross-link them so the program then will read them from the same place on the disk. if you do not cross link anything trying to access something on the second layer will give an error because there is no second layer after shrinking down to a DVD-5. the reason the original disk has identical files on both layers is to prevent the laser from having to constantly swap layers trying to find the data, doing so slows loading considerably because the laser has to refocus when it swaps layers.


     
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    thanks kc

    does it have to be the 'w' files that you delete.
    I understand these are widescreen video files.
    My xbox is set to widescreen for my LCD, do you think
    if i delete the 1,2,3 and death files that dont have the 'w' then it would still work?
    suppose i should try it and see.

    I'm trying y9ou rway now, if that works i;ll try with the other files and see what happens, thanks!
     
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    I have done it! I managed to keep every file as well – Not 1 thing had to be deleted!

    I am using Quix 1.01:
    I open Quix 1.01, and then I go to ‘Create ISO’. On the source option I click Local Folder and then I make its directory the folder where only my Tomb Raider Legend open ISO is. Then I tick the ‘automatically cross-link identical files’ box. Then I click ‘Create ISO’ button and wait while it does its thing (the progress report box comes up).
    And after it is done you have a working Tomb Raider Legend ISO!

    All you have to do now is set your DVD burner to over burn (4500MB) and that’s it!
     
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  19. KC36330

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    as mentioned above, i deleted nothing but the backup XBE and didn't delete any of the other files, the cross-linking solved all the issues as well, but i didnt have to overburn.

    kc
     
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  20. Legend216

    Legend216 Guest

    I've just downloaded qwix and after attempting to automatically cross identical files it just keeps telling me that the ISO is too big to fit on a FAT drive. Any way to bypass this? I've had this problem before with other ISO's and it's actually pretty annoying. Thanks for any help that can be given.
     

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