Ok, I am new to this DVD burning business as of today. I just bought a LG GSA-4120B (12X Super Multi DVD Rewriter). It writes DVD-RAM, DVD+R/RW, DVD-R/RW, and the not so important CD settings. I know how to use that feature... It's also double-layer burning compatible. What I'm wondering is, i am looking to backup a double layered disc. Which software and multimedia can i use to do this. I can't seem to buy blank multi-layered discs where i am yet, but can I burn a multi-layered disc such as Star Wars: attack of the clones on a normal DVD-R or RW disc? The original DVD is about 8000Mb in size, so i just figured that it wouldn't be able to burn onto a normal disc. Is that correct? Do I need a Multi-layered blank disc? So everything that I'm asking about is: 1. Which software can/should I use? 2. Which discs do I need? 3. Can I write a 8000Mb double layered disc to a DVD-R or DVD-RW? Any help would be GREATLY appreaciated.
h2oskey, you better slow way, way down - you're running in 7 different directions without a clue what you're doing and there is allot to learn. To correctly answer your questions would be to mis-lead you. 1. Let's forget about your D/L capability for now - the discs are $15.00 to $19.00(USD) each. 2. Your software - Let's start you out trying (yes you have to do to learn) DVD Shrink. Here is a download for DVD Shrink ver 3.2 and a Guide for it too - http://www.afterdawn.com/software/video_software/dvd_rippers/dvd_shrink.cfm 3. This guide mentions using Nero as a burning proggy - Download a trial version from here - http://www.ahead.de/us/631898239148750.html Lastly, What disc should you use - Ok, let's take Memorex as an excellent example as media goes, figures as high as 50% coasters have been reported (One member bought a stack of 50 and got 23 good burns.), not what I would call an impressive record. There are 4 different companies that manufacture Memorex BTW and product quality varies widely as you might imagine. Easy to see now why the quality of a big-named company can't be trusted - " Who's making your Memorex tonight ?" Note: Memorex in the singles, 5 or 10 pack, as a rule, cause less problem than those Memorex sold in bulk BUT they still aren't recommended for DVD backups. Is it just Memorex ? No ! I just used Memorex as an example. Fuji, Sony, TDK, Orange Pack and many Ritek and Verbatim discs aren't suitable as a DVD backup media - that's why we are specific in the type of media we are recommending. 1. * Cheap media freezes, skips, pixelats and may refuse to be recognized :-( Besides "Freezing", "skips" and pixelations, many times you'll get a "Cyclic Redundancy error" or an "I/O error". This message can mean that your discs are scratched or dirty, it can also mean that your burner won't accept your "cheap" media :-( Another problem which "pops up" is a "*Power Calibration Error". This can stop you right in your tracks and most often is caused by, Yep, you guessed it, inexpensive media. *A "Power Calibration Error" can also be attributed to the Optical Components of a DVD Writer, though this isn't usually the case. Trying to shut down your software and ejecting your DVD then restarting your program and re-inserting the same media recently cleaned has been known to help. Inexpensive media or even average media is great for text, Data, Spreadsheets, .Jpg and .Gif pictures and is good even for MP3 music BUT for DVD backups - BLAaaaaaT! It SUCKTH in an extremely Big-th way ! 2. A good grade, Hi-quality media is needed for DVD reproduction ! "Branded" Ritek G04's or Branded Verbatim are what we're looking for OR any media boasting "Advanced Metal AZO." - BUT it MUST SAY "METAL" AZO !, this indicates a superior dye application, while they are sometimes a bit "pricey" they are acceptable. Prices online from Meritline.com have gotten Ritek G04 starting at about a 1/2 dollar($ .50 USD) a disc - Question - If you make coasters out of 3 cheap or even average discs and good copies from 3 Branded Verbatim discs or 3 "Branded" Ritek G04 discs - which ones then will you say are too expensive ? The 3 "Cheapo's with no movie backup OR, the 3 recommended discs with a perfect backup on each disc ? Bear in mind, Memorex, Fuji, Sony, TDK, Orange Pack and others are quite good for your MP3 music, picture archives, Spread sheets, Data and your text backups and archives, they just don't work well for DVD backups. Even DataSafe G04's made by Ritek have been reported as an inferior quality media and are evoking that "Oh no, I shouldn't have gotten those." Remember, for DVD backups, purchasing inexpensive media or even average media is a gamble, some people win, the majority of people lose, varying amounts but, they still lose :-( Let's try the right media for the job - just buy a 5 pack of what we recommend that will settle it once and for all - Don't cheat though, buy the EXACT media we recommended - Using good grade media can guarantee you one thing to an absolute certainty; it surely cannot hurt. BTW, In an effort to clear the air, when I speak of "Cheap" or "Inexpensive" media, I'm not referring to the price you pay at the counter - I'm referring to the type of composite some manufactures use, their method of dye application and the lack of OR the poor quality control used during manufacturing. when I say "Branded" that means that when you pick up a disc in your hand, it says "Ritek" or "Verbatim" on the disc itself. The monetary cost of the media we recommend many times is cheaper than that you are buying now. cheers, Pete PS FAIR WARNING. . . Using that "Cheap" media, your backups may not last all that long - One thing I haven't addressed is the life of a backup made on an "el cheapo" disc. We all know that data, music and video backups on CD's and DVD's will last forever, well, if not forever for at least 100 yrs or so - That's what we've read and that's why we backup our treasures to disc, so that they'll be safe. "BLAaaaT" (the bone chilling sound of an emergency air horn), Wrong, Dead Wrong ! Don't throw the originals away, you may very well need them. Your video camera tapes and family picture CD's and DVD's, may not be there the next time you want to look at them. "Point of fact," inferior discs have a tendency to "Break down]" in time. In a very short time, we're talking disc breakdown in less than a single year, in as little as 6 to 8 months. Important, please read - http://news.independent.co.uk/world/science_technology/story.jsp?story=513486 PS You've learned allot if you read what I've given you BUT as I said in the beginning, you have much to learn - stay focused - go from one step to the next - if you jump around you'll only get yourself confused and making mistakes you shouldn't have made if you stayed focused - again, cheers h2oskey Welcome to the Club Pete
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Am I missing it? It looks like you need a subscription to view that. I didn't realise media STILL had the degredation issue - not heard anything about that in a while - I thought they had sorted that little problem. What exactly degrades it? A Chemical reaction in the Dye or something like that?
buxton, Yes, chemical reactions, moisture, light and dye. It's not all the dye - For instance, Great AZO is made under license by 8 to 10 unknown mfgrs. The dye is good, the application is good also (Formally the exclusive propriety of Verbatim.). BUT, the reason that they are sold for $.28(USD) each is the composite material the disc is made from is, how should I put this, - - absolute garbage, crap. Think of it as having a Dodge Viper Body made from papier-mâché with a 13 layer rubbed lacquer finish. Not a pretty picture - A bad disc ? Important, please read - http://news.independent.co.uk/world/science_technology/story.jsp?story=513486 cheers, Pete
Hey, thanks everyone for the help... I just copyed Just Married perfectly. and have moved on to star wars. Shrink was all i needed that i didn't have. If i have any more problems for DVD's i'll give a shout. !D
Hey, hey there h2oskey - Not qitie so fast - We're not done yet, you and I - I’m glad you’re doing so well, that means I’ve done my job well - It’s people like you who make this site work too - You've seen how we work and you see we have fun doing it - Now it's your turn, stop back when you're free and help someone else - they'll appreciate it and it will make you feel better Then you can “Welcome” them into the Club as I welcomed you We hope to see you around when you're not having problems to solve - You'll find us over there, by the water cooler, under the potted palm, chewing the fat and trying to help the next Newbie with the weight of the burning world upon their shoulders - We'll be looking for you - Cheers, Pete
Hey Pete. I didn't mean it like I was just goin to get what i wanted and leave until i needed more help... I guess it sounded like that. I would love to be able to help people out here, I just don't think I know enough to be able to be much assistance.. yet. I do catch on quickly though. And i find this all really cool and pretty fun as well. I'm really looking into being able to backup my PS2 discs as well now.. I can't tell you how long I've waited for DVD burner prices to come down so i can stop using my real discs instead of keep getting them even more scratched. I hate scratches... Thanks for all the assistance again Pete and Flip 218. You've got me started and interested. We'll see where everything goes from here.
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Hi, LOL pete you posted the same thing to me. Don't worry I'm not leaving the forums, I love helping people, and I think I helped a lot already ! I would post links lol but I don't want to brag . Well guys many more days to come for us, us advanced users (not me ) have to help out the newbie's and that's exactly what everyone is doing. Althought my newbie tag is not changing yet hmm? I have over 25 posts... Oh well, glad I can help people. Regards, DiRect
DiRect, You have enough posts as we mentioned in another thread – http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/99578 Your tag gets changed like every 6 weeks or so - Remember almost everyone here is on their own free time, be patient, it will happen - sometimes it's shorter, sometimes it's longer – it’s when pple have time – Actually you have more than 50 - Check your own profile at the top of each page your actual number is logged there To get tags changed things other than numbers are considered. That's the reason it takes longer. The quality of your posts is looked at too. Because you say "Howdy" 50-times, that doesn't count toward your tag change. Consider specializing, concentrating your expertise helps you help other better - it truly does - Cheers, "P"
