Hello all, I was always told that a dvd backup should always be burned at 1xspeed to avoid any write errors, so for the last year I've been doing just that. (Didn't have any choice really as my pioneer 103 will only write at 1xspeed). Anyway today I treated myself to a pioneer 107. I fitted it and downloaded the patched firmware and just out of curiosity I used dvd decrypter to rip one of my already decrypted backups in iso>read mode. It took just under 9 minutes at 7.8xspeed. I then burned it in iso>write mode at 8xspeed which took just 8 minutes and 2 seconds. The movie plays absolutely flawlessly in my Ronin p807 dvd player. Have I been misled all this time about burning at 1xspeed? By the way I am using Datasafe Ritek G04 4xspeed discs and the movie size was 4.38Gb (2fast 2furious)
I would use better quality Riteks - burn speeds of 6-8x are usally fine with the Pioneer's. I have always burned at maximum speed with very little problems - old wives tales the 1x burning
Thanks Oriphus I have an old wife but it wasn't her who told me. I didn't think there was a better quality ritek disc. I've always considered datasafe Ritek to be the best.
Actually, I thought Datasafe was good too HOWEVER I have been informed that the dye coating tended to be uneven and tended to have a "Time Problem" - Inexpensive media or even average media is great for text, Data, Spreadsheets, .Jpg and .Gif pictures and is good even for MP3 music BUT for DVD backups - BLAaaaaaT! It SUCKTH in an extremely Big-th way ! A good grade media is needed for DVD reproduction ! “Branded” Ritek G04's or Branded Verbatim are what we’re looking for OR any media boasting “Advanced AZO Metal Dye”, this indicates a superior dye application, while they are sometimes a bit “pricey” they are acceptable. Prices online from Meritline.com have gotten Ritek G04 down below a dollar a disc - Bear in mind, Memorex, Fuji, Sony, TDK, Orange Pack and others are quite good for your MP3 music, picture archives, Spread sheets, Data and your text backups and archives, they just don’t work well for DVD backups. Even DataSafe G04’s made by Ritek have been reported as inferior quality. Remember, for DVD backups, purchasing inexpensive media or even average media is a gamble, some people win, the majority of people lose, varying amounts but, they still lose :-( Let's try the right media for the job - just buy a 5 pack of what we recommend that will settle it once and for all - Don’t cheat though, buy the EXACT media we recommended - Using good grade media can guarantee you one thing to an absolute certainty, it surely cannot hurt. cheers, Pete A time thing ? One thing I haven't addressed is the life of a backup made on an "el cheapo" disc. Points of fact, inferior discs have a tendency to "Break down" in time. I have had 25 to 30 backups that have refused to play after being stored for a year or more. I test all of my backups when they are burnt to be totally sure that there are no problems. "In olden times," before I knew any better, the Maxell and TDK discs (and any thing that was on sale) was what I used to use before I switched to Ritek and Verbatim, it is the cheap stuff that I have been experiencing trouble with. I noticed that backup DVD's I had been using refused to play in my standalone player and on my PC. VOB files wouldn't play either and other discs that I backed up about the same time would "Jam" part way through the movie. After switching to Verbatim and Ritek s, mostly the Ritek's because the price was right, I've not had 1 go "Flat" in almost 2 years. I still have some backups done on the cheap stuff and as time wears on I lose a few more as I attempt to check them. I say to you, why did a backup play fine in "01"and "02" then "fail" in "03 ?? Some that were done in "01" never made it till "02" and others done about the same time and "Failed" in "04"? All of the backups from "02" and "03", done on the "good Stuff" work fine today - not a single failure ! As always, you have a choice - UPDATE: This has been posted in the past but I only came onto this study as of 04/27/04 to support my theory. http://news.independent.co.uk/world/science_technology/story.jsp?story=513486 _X_X_X_X_X_[small] The “old man” Pete (ö¿ô) Compaq 8000, Pent 4 CPU 2.84GHz, 1GB RAM, 520GB HD. 4 Drives, JLMS DVD ROM, Nec 4X R/W ND-1300A, HP R/W 200j, AXV CD/DVD-ROM. GeForce4 Ti 4200-128MB, OS– XP, SP1.[/small]
Thanks for the info ScubaPete, that was one hell of a long reply. Tolstoy must be turning in his grave with jealousy. Here in Britain, Datasafe branded Ritek discs are considered to be just about the best there is, but then again we drive on the left just to be bloody awkward.
(heh, heh - yea, I tried that in the Bahamas and almost got killed. Maybe it was those Bahama Mamas that I was drinking but when driving back home (on the right side) I almost didn't make it -) "P"
hey ScubaPete I notice you got a 520 GB hard drive. I guess you need that much storage space just for your replies. Ha ha ha.
Hi michigan why on earth would anyone need a hard drive that big. I only got a 40Gb and the only time I ever use more than 20% of that is when I've decrypted a movie or two ready for burning
Wait until you start ripping, storing and burning DVD's it uses a lot of HD. When I convert my home videos to DVD 1 hour of home video uses a huge amount of HD (i'm not sure but I think its like 13GB for ihour of video) People who do movie producing etc. use it alot, so do people with a lot of photos and stuff like that. Some of the newer games use a lot of HD too. For "normal" computer use you would probably not need more than 40GB or 60GB but I like to have extra room. I just bought yesterday another 80GB HD for $80 US. My 60GB was filling up fast.
Hi Guys, I heard ya all talking about me (lol), To help you along, I have No, Zero, Zilch games of any kind. I just never got into them, it was the age thing I guess - My HD's are a Maxtor 120GB (internal) and 2 Western 200GB (1 internal and 1, USB). The last HD I bought from Ebay and paid $115.00 (plus $8.00 shipping) for it, new, in the box, with all the installation stuff. When I rip a DVD, I have a folder for it, depending on what program I process it with, it’s under that program. I have had as many as 32 movies on my HD at a time. In the recent past I had 320GB’s of HD and I started to run low on space. I do have many versions of the same programs and may have more that 1 backup of a DVD on my HD (I may have done it in a VOB mode and an ISO mode). I hope that answered some questions - Cheers all, Pete
