Ilo DVDR05 Recorder

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  1. airclass

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    I have a ILO DVDR05 recorder and have a few problems.
    1. it has hum in the audio track on DVD's that it records.No hum on pre-recorded DVD's

    2. Main problem is timer function when using DVD+R disk. It will turn on and ask to insert a recordable disk and will not start recording. A fresh formatted disk was used, timer set without removing the formatted disk.

    3. If I leave the DVDR05 ON after setting timer it work OK.
    DVD +RW disks work the timer function works fine.

    I took first one back and the second one does the same thing.

    I emailed service but no response.

    I bought at Wal-Mart but for $50 more Meijer's has a lite-On that records on any type disk and has 30 day return privilege.

    I asked at their service desk and I said I may want to buy there DVD recorder and try it and if it works keep it and return the Wal-Mart one to Wal-mart if it does not work right either then I will just keep Wal-Mart one. The Wal-Mart is the Ilo DVD-Ro5 recorder and is only $98 so I would rather keep that as I also bought a portable player so I need some type of recorder that will work in the portable player.

    So any suggestions on the timer function. The hum sounds more like the high pitched whine of an electric motor running and maybe the units motor is some how modulating the laser during recording a dvd. pre-recorded movies do not have the hum.

    Thanks,
    Art
     
  2. LCSHG

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    The Lite On is a good recorder, The ilo 04 is a Liteon and can be hacked. The 05 is a Cyberhome and can not be hacked but will play just about anything.
    I have both the RHD04 and the 05MU both work very well.
    What model LiteOn are you speaking to.
    I would get the LiteOn But what model. If you stay with the ilo 05 Exchange it. Make sure that you get a MU or MU1, Dont get the 05ZU. The MU model is a better unit and has better editing. Its on the label usualy on the end of the box.
     
  3. airclass

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    Thank you for your input. The ilo recorder is an MU5 model and I did exchange it. Both do the same thing.

    ILO just answered my email this morning but looks like a standard answer they tell me to download new firmware and burn on a CR-R and update the ILO recorder.

    The reasons they list for upgrading the firmware is not the problem I am having. The recorder plays OK and records OK only problem is when I use a formatted DVD+R disk and set the timer function on the recorder. The recorder turns on but does not recognize the formatted DVD+R and ask to insert a recordable disk. If I simply open the tray and then close it then recognizes the DVD and starts the recording. That is not much help if I am not home and want to record to a DVD+R. If I use DVD+RW then the timer function works fine.

    The DVD+RW are more easily damaged if you flex the disk as the layer is a little thinner than a DVD+R. So if it is something I want to keep I would rather use a DVD+R. But maybe the firmware updates will fix the problem.

    You say your player works fine on all functions?

    Thanks
     
  4. LCSHG

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    Yes; The 05 I have seems to be working OK on all functions.

    I did have some issues with its connection and operation at first.
    This was resolved when I better understood its operation.
    The only real issue I have is when the unit is shut down (power off) it reverts back to the defalt source [DVD] and requires a source reset. if wanting to view a TV or?
    I have not had any problems with using either +R or +RW disks but have used mainly Verbatim +RW and some 3 or 4 Maxell +R disks
    I have not recorded any Audio only video so I can not speak to a problem doing this.
    There is an issue with hum in using the front jacks on the 04 model. I am not aware if this exists on the 05 and have heard no complaints concernig it.
    I ran mine through a timer function with the previous mentioned disks And did not have any problrms
    Each new disk required a format to the 05 liking. If I took a previously used disk from my 04 for use on the 05. prior to recording the 05 wanted to first adapt it to its liking, . The recording could be played in the 04 or other units.
    I don't really don't have an answer to your problem. No Offence, sometimes the answer is right in front of us and we don't see the trees for the forest.
    I Know; Iv'e been there more than once

    If the unit is going to be used fo other purposes (dub VHS to DVD etc)
    or other copy protection. Get the LiteOn and hack it. Make sure you get a unit that can be hacked
     
  5. airclass

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    ILO timer problem. ILO service emailed me telling me to download the latest firmware updates and procedure to burn & use them.

    That fixed the problems with using the timer and DVR+R disks.
    You mentioned the recorder "SOURCE" defaults to DVD and so does mine if I use the 'SOURCE' button but when using the timer it stays on "Tuner" as a source so I don't have problem with that.

    I have not tried to record audio disks, I use the computer's burner for that. The recorder does play back VCD disks that I made on the computer.

    The hum I was speaking about is on shows I record on the burner. I don't have component TV so I use the Svideo outputs and the audio outputs on the rear.

    I can reduce the volume on the recorder in playback mode and increase the volume a little on the TV and the Hum is not as noticeable.

    Will have to try dubbing and see how that works.

    Thanks for your help and informative responses.



     
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    I said
    Each new disk required a format to the 05 liking

    That is not correct a new disk that is formatted will work fine. Its a disk erased/formatted in an ilo04 tha can be a problem.
     
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    I am having my first problem with the Ilo05 and i've had it for a few months now.

    I was recording a TV show not knowing how much room was left on the disk. I soon came across a "disk full message" so I ejected it without finalizing in order to save as much time as possible. I recorded to another disk fine for the rest of the show. I then put the first disk back in so I could finalize it and watch it. It loaded the disk fine and I was able to watch part of the show and rename the titles.

    I went to finalize the disk and let it sit for about 5 minutes (much longer than it ever took before). I then got a "bad disk/disk error". I hit "ok" and it ejected the disk so i re put it in. THis time it wouldnt even recognize the disk. I turned the machine off and back on again and this time it said the disk was either bad or empty - would i like to format. I hit no and it ejected the disk. Tried to reload it and it wont read it again.

    Thats where i'm at. Any help on this would be GREATLY appreciated. What I recorded is VERY important to me and I don't want to lose it. I have a back-up on tape but when I transfer wnything from tape to the DVDr05, it seems to only come through one channel.
     
  8. KimTx

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    My first unit was an ILO05 MU model. It worked fine for 2 days. Then it gave me nothing but problems. It wouldn't recognize or format/prepare/finalize any discs - ended up with about 10 (or more wasted discs because of it. I took it back and exchanged it for an 04 model which are really hard to find now, but I haven't had any problems since. I think it's hit or miss with the 05 units. The problems you mentioned seem common unfortunately. You can browse through the threads. There is a lot of posts about the ILO machines.
     
  9. airclass

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    Not sure if this help but there is an update for the ILO5. You can download the files from their web page.

    Also this webpage has a product that may help and they have a free download for software that is supposed to recover data from CD's & DVD's.

    I have not much experience with it but it's worth looking at. You will need a DVD burner in your computer to use.

    http://www.smart-projects.net/

    My Local Wal-Mart has some more ILO model 4's in stock.

     
  10. KimTx

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    Oh, I'd go grab one of those 04 models! They are usually hard to find! If you're in a position to exchange, I'd surely take back the 05 and get the 04! I haven't had a single problem with mine and the hackware works perfectly on it.

    Incidentally I was going to get another 04 when I started looking to get a 2nd unit, but I got the LiteOn5005 instead. Couldn't find an 04. It's supposed to be delivered here by UPS on Wed.
     
  11. Blaze018

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    I tried that IsoBuster but unfortunatly it wouldnt recognize the disk.

    As if it were suprising, I had yet another problem with the dvdr05 today. I went to re-record my videos to dvd today - editing out all commercials etc so i'd have some extra room on the disk to finalize. As I reid to record the last thing I wanted on my DVD, i hit the record buttom and it showed a red dot on the top right corner with a white alsh through it. I hit the button numerous times but kept getting the same thing. I turned the recorder off and back on and not it recognized the disc as "bad disc" and yet AGAIN, hours of work are gone.

    Any help on how to recover my DVD would be greatly appreciated and as to what is wrong with my damned ILO would be appreciated. Thanks a lot once again.
     
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    Sorry for the late reply

    [ airclass ]

    Do you have two audio sources connected at the same time. If so that may be the cause of the hum problem


    [ Blaze018 ]

    When you record to a disk It will not use all the free space on the disk like a HDD will
    Recordings to a DVD disk run concurently, one after another you may think a disk has sufficent free space when it does not. A recording will not use the last free space and than record to another.
    The 05 A - B remove and auto merge seems to work well and leaves a continued free space. Check the thumbnails for free space if you have erased any programs. Getting a line through the record indicator would indicate that the disk did not have any free space. I don't know why the disk is now indicating Bad. If it is truly Bad recovery of any files is poor if not impossible
     
  13. airclass

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    I only have the audio output cables attached from the ILO outputs to the TV's Inputs. I do have a cable TV splitter on the Cable and splits to the VCR & ILO Tuner inputs.

    This morning I think I will set a scheduled recording and pull the Cable input on the VCR and and the audio outputs so just the ILO will be connected to the Cable Input.

    The hum is not a 60 hertz hum by a high pitched whine with a noticable pitch amplitude. Both ILO recoders had this whine hum so perhaps I amd getting some type of ground loop hum. Will try and isolate.
    The second ILO hummed both before and after the Updates.

    Thanks for you help.


    "[ airclass ]

    Do you have two audio sources connected at the same time. If so that may be the cause of the hum problem
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    Thanks LCSHG.

    I've got to say, i'm starting to get really dissappointed with this 05. I only had about 3 hours recorded on the disk when they should hold about 4. Guess i'll just have to re-do it and leave over an hour left.

    I e-mailed tech support so maybe theyll give me exactly what they think is wrong.
     
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    In a post above I used the term concurrently.
    It should be consecutively
    Sorry for the Error
     
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    I have a DVDR05!!
    When i press power to turn on. The display stuck on the 'Hello'

    so i cannot eject drive. If anybody know how to fix it please let me know.

     
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    blaze018,

    more than likely you may need an update from ILO, there is one on their website you can download and a later one that they emailed to me.

    Your problem might be different, the ILO has 6 settings for the record time. One setting I believe can be fixed by using the setup screen to set the defaults. Mine defaulted to the 2 hour setting so when using the schedule mode or just pressing the record button you would have to make sure you had the right # of hours set.

    Try pressing the setup button and check to see what your default Quality level is set. For 4 hours ot should be EP(ExtendedPlay).

    Airclass
     
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    I've bought two of the Ilos over the Christmas holiday, both had a horrible mid frequency hum in the audio when set on the TV Tuner mode. All other modes were clear of any hum. I checked the wiring to the sound system, I even moved the Ilo over and hooked it up to the VCR wiring which had no hum, but when the Ilo was hooked up, it had hum regardless of where I put it. Outside of the hum, the units have both worked fine.

    For the record, the Ilo and the CyberHome units are exactly the same. They have the same circuitry, the same cabinets, the same remote controls and... THE SAME HUM!! Produced at the same plant.
     
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    [ airclass ] Quote

    The recorder plays OK and records OK only problem is when I use a formatted DVD+R disk and set the timer function on the recorder. The recorder turns on but does not recognize the formatted DVD+R and ask to insert a recordable disk. If I simply open the tray and then close it then recognizes the DVD and starts the recording. That is not much help if I am not home and want to record to a DVD+R. If I use DVD+RW then the timer function works fine.
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    Try inserting a disk and wait a while [ give it a minute] to see if the machine will prepare the NEW DISK. A new disk requires this. You may be turning off the unit off before it does its thing. This could screw up the disk or the timer recording.
    [ by stopping it when in the middle of a disk prepare, Actually the unit should prepare a new disk prior to recording, with the timer. I will go through the steps with my unit Thurs or Fri and report back.
     
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