Why I WANT AN ARIEL LIKE CH--UR CAUSE i HAVE TRIED A SPRIAL TYPE WITH BUILT IN DOWNCONVERTER FROM SKYWONDER AND I AM UNABLE TO GET ALL THE CHANNELS MISSING ABOUT 15 OF THEM,
here is a link for non standard mmds aeriels http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/769392 info that might help you mate.