Need some advice on upgrades

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  1. Sqwerly

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    First of all, is anyone aware of any wireless, backlit keyboards? I'm having trouble finding any and am thinking they don't exist.

    Now, I'm considering buying a pc case and want to know the diffference between ATX and Micro-ATX and baby ATX, etc.

    Will my current stuff fit in the new case? I have what seems to be a mini case judging from compared dimensions so I assume my stuff will fit in a mid-range case which all seem to be bigger.

    I have a Acer G33T-AM Motherboard with a Intel G33 Chipset. Are there any issues I should be aware of when tranfering this stuff over to a new case?

    P.S. I've never done anything like this before. I just have a Best Buy Acer pc and I've order a new PSU, graphics card and and considering buying a nice case and what to know if it will all work.
     
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    That is a MicroATX board and will fit in a microATX or normal ATX case. I don't know of any illuminated wireless keyboards due to the power consumption but they might exist.
     
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    Hey, thanks a lot. I spend a while researching and couldn't find the classification of my Mobo.

    Eventually I figure I should upgrade my Mobo as it is probably a cheap desktop bundle type, but if it can handle some good RAM (I think it can take 8 GB of DDR3 RAM though I'm not 100% sure) and a GEforce 9800 GTX, do I really need to worry about that?

    Thanks,

    Sqwerly
     
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    It'll be DDR2, not DDR3, but 8GB sounds about right.
    As for the graphics card, there are better value and more power efficient cards than the 9800GTX out now, the HD4850 in particular.
     
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    Huh.

    THis is what Everest says under Northbridge Properties, supported Memory Types:

    DDR2-667 SDRAM, DDR2-800 SDRAM, DDR3-800 SDRAM, DDR3-1066 SDRAM, DDR3-1333 SDRAM

    Still, I don't much of a clue what is good and what is better; what will work and what won't.

    Also, found a pretty sweet looking deal for a 9800GTX+...$139 after rebate on Newegg. Is there better deals (cards that are less power sucking, quiter, more powerful, etc.) out there?

    Also, if I have a MicroATX Mobo, should I stick with a MicroATX case or does it matter?

    I know I ask a lot of questions but that's how ya learn..thanks for your patience.

    Sqwerly
     
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    I've been strictly an Nvidia guy...probably just because my first card was Nvidia...so I'm wary of ATI.

    Should I consider a cool-looking case like this...

    http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811146043

    ...if I already have a microATX mobo? Of course, I didn't know about any of these terms when I ordered my PSU...
     
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    Whether you're an nvidia guy or not, right now the better performing and better value cards are from ATI. Not how it was even 10 months ago, but that's how it is at the moment.
    Using a MiroATX board means you can use pretty much any case you like.
     
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    Yeah, ATI is king right now...that will change, and change back, and change again and...

    Also never seen an illuminated wireless keyboard...I imagine it would be rather heavy with the big battery pack.

    You do know there are microATX cases around $20, and fullATX cases around $30? That case looks kinda cool, but it does not offer any features over a $20 econo-case (in fact, it seems to have less capacity than most $20 cases)
     
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    Seems so weird to me to consider an ATI card. I guess it's no big difference then? What about control panel options and dual-monitor stuff and HD playback? ATI is just as good or better in those regards? How come Nividia seems so much more popular?

    About the case, I just want something that looks cool :)

    I was thinking that if I already have a microATX mobo that I should jump at the chance to get a unique (among pc civilians) case but I'm thinking there's too many other issues involved (PSU, space, my unfamiliarity with it, etc.)...

     
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    The NZXT Rogue, despite its size is a portable small form case but using the MicroATX architecture. It performs like a shuttle case and can be carried around with ease, but has room for a full size power supply, graphics card and CPU cooler.

    As far as control panel options, HD video playback and dual monitors, that is something ATI have always been best at. nVidia used to be more popular due to slightly higher games performance (though how they achieved it was a little illegitimate), but now even ATI have that honour as well.
    I see far more systems built with ATI cards in them now than nvidia ones, simply because ATI offer the better value product in every sector of the market.
     
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    Wow, tough decision now with that info. Do I go with a awesome-looking mid-size tower (which will be slightly bigger than my current mini-case) or switch it up with a shuttle case just because I can?

    Here's my issue with the ATI card:

    I guess I am willing to switch over. But from what I've read (and I'm no expert) the 9800 GTX+ is either equal too or slightly better in performance, at least according to this chart:

    http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/...q3-2008/3DMark06-v1.1.0-3DMark-Score,794.html

    And the one has them equal:

    http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-geforce-graphics,2086-7.html

    So if I had to choose, shouldn't I go with the make I'm familiar with? But if there was a consensus here that the 4850 was the way to go, I would definitely do it.
     
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    3dmark06 is a heavily biased program in favour of nvidia, and does not reflect real world performance. In that chart the 9800GTX+ is slightly behind the HD4850, the others mentioned are significantly behind.

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