Nero Recoder and accessing extras

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  1. A_shopper

    A_shopper Member

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    I originally asked a question on this in the Newbie forum - but got no response, so I thought I'd try in here and add a few more details (so sorry for cross-posting, but maybe this is the more relevant place for the message).

    My original message relates to "Long Way Round - Disk 1" and was:
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    "I can copy using Nero 6, and although my DVD player takes a while to load the burned copy, it will play. However the extra features just won't work (you can select an item off the sub-menu, but the disk spins for a while, then re-presents the menu again).

    The original disk was >7Gb so I recoded it to fit on a standard Fujifilm DVD-R. The default compression only knocked the quality down on the extra features slightly more than on the main film (around 50%), but the menus were really compressed (about 17% of their original size).

    Any idea whether I should increase the quality of the extra features, or the menus to get it to work - or is this not likely to make any difference?"
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    I've since tried reducing the space used on the disk to 4.3Gb and increasing the copying process to 'highest quality', and that makes the disk load much quicker. But I still can't access the extra features, nor can I get all the way through the last episode without the disk sticking. I've since tried using DVD+R (Verbatim), but I just get errors when I try to burn to them.

    Is it likely that these problems are because the disk I'm trying to copy is not in top-notch condition?

    Ta
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  2. A_shopper

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    Of course....it may help if I posted the log file!

    ********** Nero Recode 2 **********

    Version: 2.2.6.11

    Jo

    1A******************************

    Project type: Copy entire DVD
    Target size: Custom (2201600)

    19:06:03 File LangStreamPatcher.cpp, Line 56
    Command table patching started...

    19:06:03 File LangStreamPatcher.cpp, Line 133
    All tables successfully patched!

    Burn settings:
    Target: SONY DVD RW DW-U18A
    Number of copies: 1
    Write speed: 0 KB/s
    Temp folder: C:\Documents and Settings\Jo\My Documents\Nero Recode (171751464960 bytes free)
    Direct burning: false
    Target media: DVD+R/RW, DVD-R/RW, DVD-RAM, DVD-R DL, DVD+R DL
    Shutdown when finished: false
    Advanced Analysis: false
    Compress Adaptive: true

    19:06:29 File burn_dvdfiles.cpp, Line 231
    Compile DVD: init

    VMG Menus Vobs [50 vobus] 0.29MB -> 0.27MB [R 0.00]
    Video: 0.17MB, extra: 0.10MB
    Audio: 0 streams
    Subpicture: 1 streams
    0. 0. Unspecified 0.00MB [enabled]

    VTS_01 Menus Vobs [314 vobus] 130.85MB -> 52.68MB [R 0.00]
    Video: 48.93MB, extra: 3.75MB
    Audio: 1 streams
    0. 0. Dolby Digital 2-ch Unspecified 3.01MB [enabled]
    Subpicture: 1 streams
    0. 0. Unspecified 0.12MB [enabled]

    VTS_01 Title Vobs [21209 vobus] 7362.75MB -> 4146.14MB [R 0.08]
    Video: 3788.99MB, extra: 357.16MB
    Audio: 1 streams
    0. 0. Dolby Digital 2-ch English 315.73MB [enabled]
    Subpicture: 0 streams

    VTS_02 Menus Vobs [20 vobus] 0.05MB -> 0.05MB [not compressable]
    Video: 0.01MB, extra: 0.04MB
    Audio: 0 streams
    Subpicture: 1 streams
    0. 0. Unspecified 0.00MB [enabled]

    VTS_02 Title Vobs [634 vobus] 219.53MB -> 100.53MB [R 0.00]
    Video: 89.87MB, extra: 10.67MB
    Audio: 1 streams
    0. 0. Dolby Digital 2-ch English 9.43MB [enabled]
    Subpicture: 0 streams

    19:06:29 File burn_dvdfiles.cpp, Line 1152
    Compile DVD: begin copy 1

    19:06:30 File NeroRecorderBase.cpp, Line 488
    Writing to disc: DVD-R

    19:06:30 File NeroRecorderBase.cpp, Line 502
    Free capacity on disc: 2286460 sectors (2298496)

    19:06:30 File burn_dvdfiles.cpp, Line 479
    Compile DVD: burning 2286460 sectors (2201600 required)

    19:06:30 File burn_dvdfiles.cpp, Line 656
    Compile DVD: adjust target size to 4465.74MB (4465.74MB obtained)

    19:06:30 File burn_dvdfiles.cpp, Line 524
    Compiling DVD Volume started

    19:06:30 File burn_dvdfiles.cpp, Line 1058
    Compile DVD: finished VMG Menus Vobs

    VMG Menus Vobs:
    Original 0.29MB -> Expected 0.27MB -> Output 0.27MB
    Finished error 0.00MB
    Ratio encoded = 0
    Original encoded = 45
    Slide encoded = 5
    StillImage encoded = 0
    Output extra size = 0.10MB
    Source video size = 0.19MB
    Pictures Modified [I 50] [P 0] [B 0]

    19:07:31 File burn_dvdfiles.cpp, Line 1058
    Compile DVD: finished VTS_01 Menus Vobs

    VTS_01 Menus Vobs:
    Original 130.85MB -> Expected 56.47MB -> Output 56.47MB
    Finished error 0.00MB
    Ratio encoded = 267
    Original encoded = 22
    Slide encoded = 25
    StillImage encoded = 0
    Output extra size = 3.75MB
    Source video size = 127.10MB
    Pictures Modified [I 825] [P 811] [B 1615]

    19:20:20 File NeroRecorder.cpp, Line 593
    Added extra file VTS_01_2.VOB

    19:31:59 File NeroRecorder.cpp, Line 593
    Added extra file VTS_01_3.VOB

    19:44:06 File NeroRecorder.cpp, Line 593
    Added extra file VTS_01_4.VOB

    19:57:16 File NeroRecorder.cpp, Line 593
    Added extra file VTS_01_5.VOB

    19:59:30 File burn_dvdfiles.cpp, Line 1058
    Compile DVD: finished VTS_01 Title Vobs

    VTS_01 Title Vobs:
    Original 7362.75MB -> Expected 4302.31MB -> Output 4302.31MB
    Finished error -0.00MB
    Ratio encoded = 21186
    Original encoded = 23
    Slide encoded = 0
    StillImage encoded = 0
    Output extra size = 357.16MB
    Source video size = 7005.60MB
    Pictures Modified [I 21195] [P 65111] [B 167718]

    19:59:31 File burn_dvdfiles.cpp, Line 1058
    Compile DVD: finished VTS_02 Menus Vobs

    VTS_02 Menus Vobs:
    Original 0.05MB -> Expected 0.05MB -> Output 0.05MB
    Finished error -0.00MB
    Ratio encoded = 0
    Original encoded = 20
    Slide encoded = 0
    StillImage encoded = 0
    Output extra size = 0.04MB
    Source video size = 0.01MB
    Pictures Modified [I 0] [P 0] [B 0]

    20:01:08 File burn_dvdfiles.cpp, Line 1058
    Compile DVD: finished VTS_02 Title Vobs

    VTS_02 Title Vobs:
    Original 219.53MB -> Expected 106.31MB -> Output 106.32MB
    Finished error 0.00MB
    Ratio encoded = 632
    Original encoded = 2
    Slide encoded = 0
    StillImage encoded = 0
    Output extra size = 10.67MB
    Source video size = 208.87MB
    Pictures Modified [I 634] [P 1900] [B 5067]

    20:01:09 File burn_dvdfiles.cpp, Line 547
    Compile DVD: completed successfuly (4465.75MB)

    20:01:09 File NeroRecorderBase.cpp, Line 1096
    Burning 15 files with total size of 4682674176 bytes on hard disk

    20:01:09 File burn_dvdfiles.cpp, Line 1152
    Compile DVD: begin copy 1

    1A*******************************



    Windows XP 5.1

    IA32

    WinAspi: File 'Wnaspi32.dll': Ver=?.?.?.?, size=30208 bytes, created 11/06/1997 19:01:02

    ahead WinASPI: File 'C:\Program Files\Ahead\NeroVision\NeroFiles\Wnaspi32.dll': Ver=2.0.1.74, size=164112 bytes, created 26/10/2004 17:35:34

    Nero API version: 6.6.0.8

    Using interface version: 6.6.0.8

    Installed in: C:\Program Files\Ahead\NeroVision\NeroFiles\

    Application: Ahead\Nero Recode

    Recorder: <SONY DVD RW DW-U18A> Version: UYS1 - HA 1 TA 1 - 6.6.0.8

    Adapter driver: <atapi> HA 1

    Drive buffer : 2048kB

    Bus Type : default (0) -> ATAPI, detected: ATAPI



    === Scsi-Device-Map ===

    CdRomPeripheral : SONY CD-RW CRX320E atapi Port 1 ID 0 DMA: On

    CdRomPeripheral : SONY DVD RW DW-U18A atapi Port 1 ID 1 DMA: On

    DiskPeripheral : Promise 1+0 Stripe/RAID01.10 fasttx2k Port 2 ID 0 DMA: Off

    OtherPeripheral : Promise RAID Console 1.00 fasttx2k Port 2 ID 4 DMA: Off

    CdRomPeripheral : VOBID InstantDrive CD 14 VOBID Port 4 ID 0 DMA: Off



    === CDRom-Device-Map ===

    SONY CD-RW CRX320E D: CDRom0

    SONY DVD RW DW-U18A E: CDRom1

    VOBID InstantDrive CD F: CDRom2

    =======================



    AutoRun : 1

    Excluded drive IDs:

    WriteBufferSize: 83886080 (0) Byte

    ShowDrvBufStat : 0

    BUFE : 0

    Physical memory : 1022MB (1047264kB)

    Free physical memory: 396MB (406012kB)

    Memory in use : 61

    Uncached PFiles: 0x0

    Use Inquiry : 1

    Global Bus Type: default (0)

    Check supported media : Disabled (0)



    8.8.2005

    NeroAPI

    20:01:09 #1 Phase 112 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 276

    DVD-Video files reallocation started



    20:01:09 #2 Phase 114 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 276

    DVD-Video files reallocation completed (no file modified)



    20:01:09 #3 Phase 111 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 276

    DVD-Video files sorted



    20:01:09 #4 Text 0 File Reader.cpp, Line 127

    Reader running



    20:01:09 #5 Text 0 File Writer.cpp, Line 122

    Writer SONY DVD RW DW-U18A running



    20:01:09 #6 ISO9660GEN -11 File geniso.cpp, Line 3293

    First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000)



    20:01:09 #7 ISO9660GEN -11 File geniso.cpp, Line 3293

    First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000)



    20:01:09 #8 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 3153

    Turn on Disc-At-Once, using DVD media



    20:01:10 #9 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 260

    Last possible write address on media: 2298495 (510:46.45, 4489MB)

    Last address to be written: 2287007 (508:13.32, 4466MB)



    20:01:10 #10 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 272

    Write in overburning mode: NO (enabled: CD)



    20:01:10 #11 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 2339

    Recorder: SONY DVD RW DW-U18A, Media type: DVD-R

    Disc Manufacturer: Prodis - cF01

    Disc Application Code: 64, Disc Physical Code: 193



    20:01:10 #12 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 438

    >>> Protocol of DlgWaitCD activities: <<<

    =========================================



    20:01:10 #13 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 830

    Setup items (after recorder preparation)

    0: TRM_DATA_MODE1 ()

    2 indices, index0 (150) not provided

    original disc pos #0 + 2287008 (2287008) = #2287008/508:13.33

    relocatable, disc pos for caching/writing not required/ required, no patch infos

    -> TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048, config 0, wanted index0 0 blocks, length 2287008 blocks [SONY DVD RW DW-U18A]

    --------------------------------------------------------------



    20:01:10 #14 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 1043

    Prepare recorder [SONY DVD RW DW-U18A] for write in CUE-sheet-DAO

    DAO infos:

    ==========

    MCN: ""

    TOCType: 0x00; Session Closed, disc fixated

    Tracks 1 to 1:

    1: TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048/0x00, FilePos 0 0 4683792384, ISRC ""

    DAO layout:

    ===========

    __Start_|____Track_|_Idx_|_CtrlAdr_|_RecDep__________

    0 | lead-in | 0 | 0x41 | 0x00

    0 | 1 | 0 | 0x41 | 0x00

    0 | 1 | 1 | 0x41 | 0x00

    2287008 | lead-out | 1 | 0x41 | 0x00



    20:01:10 #15 Phase 24 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 276

    Caching of files started



    20:01:10 #16 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 4040

    Cache writing successful.



    20:01:10 #17 Phase 25 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 276

    Caching of files completed



    20:01:10 #18 Phase 36 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 276

    Burn process started at 8x (11,080 KB/s)



    20:01:10 #19 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 2609

    Verifying disc position of item 0 (relocatable, disc pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #0



    20:01:11 #20 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 2216

    Recording mode: Sequential Recording Mode



    20:01:11 #21 Text 0 File Mmc.cpp, Line 21261

    Set BUFE: Buffer under-run error protection -> ON , Adapt writespeed to disc : ON



    20:01:11 #22 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 2362

    Start write address at LBA 0

    DVD high compatibility mode: Yes



    20:01:11 #23 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 8430

    ---- DVD Structure: Physical Format Information (00h) ----

    Layer: 0, Address: 0 (0 h), AGID: 0; Length: 2050

    Book Type: DVD-R (2), Part Version: 5

    Disc Size: 120 mm, Maximum Rate: <not specified> (F h)

    Number of Layers: 1, Track Path: Parallel Track Path (PTP), Layer Type: recordable

    Linear Density: 0,267 um/bit, Track Density: 0,74 um/track

    Starting Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 30000 h (DVD-ROM, DVD-R/-RW, DVD+R/+RW)

    End Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 0 h

    End Sector Number in Layer 0: 0 h (LBN: FFFD0000 h, 4193920 MB)

    Data in Burst Cutting Area (BCA) does not exist

    Start sector number of the current Border-Out: 0 h

    Start sector number of the next Border-In: 0 h

    Media Specific [16..63]:

    00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................

    00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................

    00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................



    20:01:34 #24 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1287

    20:01:34.203 - SONY DVD RW DW-U18A\H1 T1 : Queue again later



    20:11:06 #25 Text 0 File WriterStatus.cpp, Line 116

    <SONY DVD RW DW-U18A > start writing Lead-Out at LBA 2287008 (22E5A0h), lenght 0 blocks



    20:11:06 #26 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 228

    all writers idle, stopping conversion



    20:11:06 #27 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 2625

    EndDAO: Last written address was 2287007



    20:12:38 #28 Phase 37 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 276

    Burn process completed successfully at 8x (11,080 KB/s)





    Existing drivers:



    Registry Keys:

    HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\WinLogon\AllocateCDROMs : 0 (Security Option)




    20:12:43 File burn_dvdfiles.cpp, Line 301
    Compile DVD: exit

     
  3. creaky

    creaky Moderator Staff Member

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    i've requested the moderators close the other post now this post is in the correct forum. Sounds to me like you've not done the menus correctly or the standalone player just doesn't like the disc, or both..

    - those question marks aren't right. try installing latest 4.71 - http://www.afterdawn.com/software/cdr_software/cdr_tools/aspi.cfm

    - can't find out if this is out of date or not, yet

    - wow - striped mirror - nice!. i don't think DMA is needed for Raid, not sure

    - you're burning too close to ouer edge of discs. see if you can find the target size setting to change this to 4300MB

    - i'd say try better media but you say you've tried some (Verbatim)

    - try burning at 4x
     
  4. A_shopper

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    Creaky

    Thanks for the tips, will follow your advice - although I've no idea what that striped mirror thing is all about! :eek:)

    I think I may have been doing something very, very stupid. I was using Nero Recode via the SmartStart (StartSmart?) application, and selecting the 'Copy main feature' rather than the 'Copy entire DVD' option. I went for this because the rollover comments make it appear that you have to use the 'Copy main feature' if you want to reduce the size to fit on a 4.7Gb disk.

    I'm going to smack my head off the nearest wall, then try another burn!

    Ta
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  5. creaky

    creaky Moderator Staff Member

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    - okay, here's a quick overview - http://www.webopedia.com/TERM/R/RAID.html (sorry i'm a geek!)


    'fraid i don't use recode, i use DVD Shrink for 99.9% of my movies. i make for what i don't know about certain Nero products by attacking the logfiles. I only have use for Nero Burning Rom you see. i use Shrink for shrinking my movies, then do simple dvd-video burns in Burning Rom. did a quick search though and this might help you - http://www.videohelp.com/guides.php?guideid=483#483

    ps don't forget to sort out the ASPI, target size to 4300MB and burn speed, from my previous reply...
     
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  6. teflonmyk

    teflonmyk Regular member

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    I think A_shopper figured it out... LOL

    A_shopper, I'd probably go for DL media rather than 50% compression (greater now that you are going to copy entire DVD!). Personally, my max has been 60% (Star Wars movies with main movie only). The quality was great, but I wouldn't push my luck!!! Let us know what the compression turns out to be and the quality of that backup. I have Intervideo DVDCopy3 as well, but Recode2 is just as good in video quality and better overall with its options...

    Creaky: you ought to give Recode2 a whirl (especially since you can get the OEM Suite3, which includes it, for $8.00). I think you would like it. It's like Shrink2!!! LOL
     
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  7. creaky

    creaky Moderator Staff Member

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    @teflonmyk -

    i know, for now i'm happy dealing with the logfiles :)
     

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