Nerovision 3 - imported mpeg audio and video out of sync

Looks like this is the best forum I've found so far for my problem, so I hope someone knowledgable can help.

Mine is a long and pained history with this software, so I'll try to keep it brief.

1. Had Windows 98SE, CPU 500 mhz overclocked to 1.2. Nero ran pretty well up until a certain update. Then, it wouldn't work anymore. Nero Support was absolutely no help. Spent MONTHS trying to resolve the issue. Gave up.

2. Bought myself a new comoputer, figuring I could start all over. windows XP SP2. Loaded Nero, including the SMC patch. Tried to import one of the .mpgs I've had captured for a long time.

When I watch the file on the editing viewer, the sound quickly gets out of sync with the video. I've written Nero support again. They told me to deactivate some drivers and remove any other burning software. Did that. That's not the problem. After a LOT of research, I've come to the conclusion that Nero has problems with the files.

It dawned on me that maybe this may be a TBC problem. Here are the facts.

1. Captured these files with a Vide-Oh! external capture device. It doesn't don't play together well with Nero to capture, but they worked okay on the old machine as two seperate programs (I didn't load the software for burning that came with Vide-Oh! -- Arcsoft).

2. Four files were from a very recent tape, but I had problems capturing it, because I had neglected to defrag the computer beforehand. I finally managed to capture the vid in pieces.

3. Another set of shorter .mpgs were from an older tape - like 1989. Now, it has occured to me that in both cases, I had started and stopped the tapes, rather than just capturing the whole things. I think I read somewhere that that might cause a problem. But if I stop my captures properly (via the software), I don't see how that could be a problem(?) I just wanted to make sure they didn't suddenly drop out.


4. Any of these files will play fine in Windows Media Player, but when I play them in Nero, I have the sound sync problem.

5. In my research, I discovered there are different kinds of mpgs. There are also mpegs, etc. I think my files are .mpg, not .mpeg. Don't know if there's a difference(?)

6. Tried another program, having gotten fed up with Nero. None of them would import properly.

7. This brought me to the conclusion that there is an inherent problem with at least these sets of mpgs.

8. In my research, I found the Prelinger Archives (http://www.archive.org/details/prelinger) that have rock solid mpeg-1 and mpeg-2 files. I loaded one into the other software. It looks fine. Tried it in Nero - lo, and behold, it's works perfectly (didn't try to burn a file - that may be another issue).

9. This re-inforces my belief that the problem is with my particular mpg files.

Now, still with me? I hope so, 'cuz here are my questions!

A. I'm getting the impression that I'm going to have to convert these files to another format. What is recommended, and what's the fastest to do that? These files are one-of-a-kind, so I don't want to give up on them yet. I'm not sure I can use Recode on them.

B. I don't think I can change the type of file the capture device writes to. Am I going to have to resort to re-encoding them into a more compliant mpeg format or into a larger avi file? (If the latter, what's the best?)

C. Am I better off getting an internal capture card - money I don't want to spend? Would that solve the problem so that I could capture straight to Nero, rather than doing it in two steps?

I guess I need to try another capture - one with a newer tape to see if my suspicions are correct.

I've gone all overthe net and I see a LOT of people have had this sync problem, with no resolution. I'm hoping maybe I'll finally get some answers here.

Thanks.

 

I was hoping I would hear from someone by now!

 

Hi, thanks for the reply. Sorry for the TMI. I think I'm at least narrowing down a solution in the other topic I raised, but I'll give that a try. Why would DivxtoDVD give me a clue?

 

Could I import the AC3 files, or just import the whole thing into Nero?

 

wow

Your experiences are very similar to mine: similar hardware (Adaptec VideoOh! USB2 version) - and simmilar experience with Ahead support (de-install this - de-install that - the only thing they didn't tell was to turn off my computer - that probably would have worked - multiple posts to this forum; reinstalled OS.....nothing helped - I always had A/V sync problems and nasty artifacts in resulting DVDs whenever I used Nero software..

Don't fret - just don't use nero software for anything that does something to your video files.

Use Nero for burning stuff to a disc - it appears to do that pretty well - but video procsing/encoding/transcoding anything like that - [bold]for me[/bold] it falls way short.

Right now for very simple DVD authoring (no siginificant video editing) - Sonic's MyDVD 6 works OK - albeit very limiting on its encoding/transcoding and authoring abilities. I don't burn with it - rather I just write ISOs.

For transcoding - well shrinking from DVD9 to DVD5 - I am using DVDShrink with good success - again just writing ISOs.

For buring I have switched to VSO BlindWrite and CopyToDVD. I haven't done much with CopyToDVD to know if it has any decent editing/encoding/transcodeing abilities - I suspect not - it appears to more usefull for organizing files already encoded/recoded/transcoded/edited - into a DVD ready form.

For 'editing'/encoding - I am sill looking. I feel pretty burned (heh -sorry for the pun) by plunking down my $$$ for Nero 66 ultra - and finding out how poor it is at what I was trying to get it to do. Because of this - I don't feel like buying anything else untill fully investigated/tested. The Tsunami MPEG software looks OK - but haven't investigated/tested as of yet. I am also a linux geek - and started tesing the waters there - cinelerra looks promissing - but appears to work with mainly uncompressed video.

For strictly burning ISOs and data to a disc - nero maybe OK - but thats about it.

 

Thanks for the reply. But amazingly, I think I FINALLY figured it out!

Here's the deal. Thinking about #8, I got a clue to my problem.

Many moons ago, I had a number of conversations with the Videoh! tech supoort folks, finally learning in the whole deal about them and Nero not playing well together - mostly because of MYDVD (and Showbiz, to a lesser extent). Nero doesn't tolerate ANY other burning software (well, maybe not all, but mostly all).

Anyway, I got to thinking - "Okay, maybe I was only doing things half-assed. Let's try rendering the damn .mpg in Showbiz." I still had MYDVD/Videoh! loaded on the new computer and moved Nero to the new one. I had never installed Showbiz way back when because I couldn't get the hang of the interface (of course, now, I see it's similar in function to Nero).

So anyway, once I had installed Showbiz on the old computer, I was fooling around with some settings, and found the one where Showbiz could produce an MPEG-2 file. ??? I began to wonder if the captures I'd done in the past were not true .mpgs at all, but some weird proprietry hybrid like Nero's FAQ seemed to imply. I saw there were several settings, including bitrates, etc. that I'd never encountered because I never used Showbiz - I went straight from the capture to Nero.

Lo and behold, I imported a finished MPEG2 file into Nero and it was synced! Just to be sure Fate wasn't jacking me around again, I burned a test onto a DVD-RW with Nero. Son of a gun! It looked pretty good, other than I noticed one of my clips had that distracting pixelation of the background. The people in the forground looked pretty good, though. I can live with that. I imagine I just need to fiddle around some more to make some of my other .mpgs that were having sync problems look better.

So, I'm guessing that between a combination of stretched tapes that messed up the TBC and being a proprietary capture, that's why the .mpgs were giving Nero dyspepsia. So in future, I'll make the MPEG2 in Showbiz on the old computer and then import it to the new one with Nero installed.

It may not be a solution for everyone, but it was for me. And I'm a much happier camper.

 

Interesting....

What do you mean by proprietary format? The mpegs I get from MyDVD when I do a capture - look like your garden variety MPEG2 file.

Pretty much everything I have fed them to, deal with them OK. Even Nero seemed to deal with them well - it was only after using NVE to import them - that resulting DVD (ISO/ngrs too) would there be artifacts and A/V sync problems..

But it is good news that you are satisfied - I wish I were so lucky....

 

Perhaps I was doing it wrong, but the capture was not an MPEG2 before I imported it into NVE2.

I noticed artifacts on one of two video clips I burned last night. Dont' know why one was better than the other. Any thoughts on how to eliminate it? Seems odd that it'd be only on one of the clips, from the same tape, in different spots.

 

I have had this problem also but only with some discs where I have not captured them myself. I am dealing with .VOB files here. When I use files captured onto +R disc using Philips DVDR70 NERO reads them fine, as it does with a lot of other discs I get. The only way that I have found to fix it was to use the "Convert DVD-Video movies to NERO Digital" from NERO Smartstart and then read that file into NERO Vision. I have emailed support @ NERO offering to send them a disc that won't read directly in without sync problem so I'll see what they say.

Cheers

Jon