Newbie planning out computer parts

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  1. dytopia

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    The devices that are supported are any type of IDE drives such as hard drives, zip or optical
     
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    @dytopia

    I haven't looked at your parts yet(will in a second), but what type of PC are you looking to build and whats your budget?
     
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    i dont think i need to spend more than 1500

    [​IMG]okay,

    one thing. im not sure if the case is compatible with everything in the cart, this is the link to the case
    http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/ ... =TC3J-2341

    two, the motherboard says it supports two devices, I know the DVD writer is one and the hard drive is another, so thats 2...is there anything else that takes up a slot? because if there is there would be no room for it meaning i have to make some changes
     
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    Apevia makes decent cases but there are much better cases available. And I would HIGHLY recommend against using the free PSU in your high end PC, it will most definetly not be of high quality and has the potential to fry all your pc components. Can you buy from newegg? they generally have better prices? If not I take it tigerdirect is were you want to buy everything.
     
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    Also I take it you plan to do a good bit of gaming on this machine? Do you plan to overclock? What is your parts budget?
     
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    Yeah, well I dont really have a parts budget. I just feel like I should spend over 1500 over all, and yeah I will be doing a lot of gaming on it :)

    As for buying it, I just want to know the actual brands and parts im buying, it can be from anywhere, could be from the internet or it could be from anywhere around here. just as long as its what I want and the prices are reasonable

    For my case, your saying that the PSU could fry the components inside? I would hate that. what case and PSU do you recommend?

     
  9. sammorris

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    Dude, what's with your signature? It's a million times the forum regulation size!

    I'm agreed on Peainapod about the PSU, cheap free-with-the-case PSUs are horrifying.
    I recommend the NZXT Tempest case and a Corsair HX 520W power supply.
    Also:
    You don't want an nforce chipset motherboard, they're not very good, and you don't want an EVGA graphics card either. Go with a Sapphire Radeon HD4850 and a Gigabyte EP35-DS3R motherboard.
    Also, use Corsair memory not OCZ as it's more reliable, and get a half-decent cooler, thermaltake's are really quite poor. For that I'd recommend an Arctic cooling Freezer 7 Pro, or if you've got the extra, a Thermalright Ultra-120 extreme with a 120mm case fan attached.
     
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    Just to throw this in do NOT purchase crucial ram. They have had major problems with recent memory batches, which is why all there memory is now dirt cheap and sporting rebates. I bought 4Gb of there high-end ballistix memory and it refused to run at the stock settings even after I set them in the BIOS. Just stay away from Crucial for now. I agree with sammorris Corsair is the way to go.
     
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    It's mainly Crucial's PC8500 stuff that's problematic, but agreed, there's no reason to veer from Corsair, really, it's not fanboyism, it's just playing it safe.
     
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    Okay, so here are the changes ive made...
    Tower case, power supply, mother board, memory, gfx card and added a CPU cooler..

    one question, why is the GA-EP35-DS3R better than EVGA nforce 780i SLI Motherboard, if the EVGA is $285 and the EP35 is $119.99?

    So everything here is compatible and fine? should I add or take away anything else?

    Tower case
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811146047&Tpk=NZXT+Tempest
    $109.99

    Power Supply
    Corsair HX 520W
    Couldnt find link on tigerdirect or newegg

    Motherboard (x1)
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128086&Tpk=GA-EP35-DS3R
    $119.99

    Hard Drive (x1)
    http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2795126&Sku=TSD-500AAKS
    $79.99

    Memory (x1~2)
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145184
    $86.50

    CPU (x1)
    http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2643933&Sku=CP2-DUO-Q6600
    $199.99

    GFX Card (x1)
    http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3942709&CatId=3670
    $243.99

    DVD WRITER (x1)
    http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/searchtools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3569869
     $29.99

    Case Fan (??)
    http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/searchtools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1089088
     $18.99

    CPU cooler (x1~2)
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835186134&Tpk=Arctic+cooling+Freezer+7+Pro
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835109125&Tpk=Thermalright+Ultra-120+extreme
    $31.99
    $59.99

    Thermal Conductivity Paste
    http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=480215&CatId=503
    $6.99
     
  13. sammorris

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    It's not that the EP35-DS3R is better, but it does the same job, and suffers less compatibility and reliability issues.


    Power supply link: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139001
    Use this thermal paste instead: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835100007

    Also, newegg will never sell the ultra-120, you have to get it from NCIXUS.
    You will not need any extra case fans with the NZXT Tempest.
    The rest of the components are fine, you will only need one set of that memory, 2x2GB is plenty.
     
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    So for the cooling, I don't need this

    Case Fan
    Ultra Blue/Titanium 80mm Ball Bearing Fan 3-Pack
    http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/searchtools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1089088
     $18.99

    But I need the other two CPU coolers..

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835186134&Tpk=Arctic+cooling+Freezer+7+Pro
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835109125&Tpk=Thermalright+Ultra-120+extreme
    $31.99
    $59.99

    Is that right?

    Any by the way thanks a lot for all the help and advice you guys gave me, your a real life savers samm and pea =]
     
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    No, you only need one CPU cooler - you also do not need the case fan.
     
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    So, im not gonna get this
    Ultra Blue/Titanium 80mm Ball Bearing Fan 3-Pack



    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...eezer+7+Pro
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...a-120+extreme


    and out of these two im guessing the thermalalright is a better choice than the acrtic coolng..

    and lastly, im having some doubts about the mother boards after reading this'


    Cons: ...until yesterday when I tried booting it up. It's now stuck in a on/off/on/off reboot cycle that doesn't stop unless I cut the power. After reading on the web, this is a VERY COMMON problem with this board, and it happens out completely out of the blue.

    Cons: Gigabyte's freaky BIOS resets stable overclocked settings back to default for no reason. Posts at 450 FSB after a reset, but can't boot at even 367 FSB after shutdown. Maybe this hasn't happened to your board, but it happens with some for reasons yet unknown. Probably RAM timings, or voltages, or poor support for 45nm CPUs. CPU and RAM aren't even close to OC limit, PSU and temps are fine, but BIOS is nuts. Why is this board stable in Windows at 4.0GHz but can't cold boot at 3.5GHz? Gigabyte tech support refuses to admit this is a known problem with their recent BIOSes.

    Cons: The integrated sound drivers need some work, my neighbor hates the bass so I need to tweak that.
     
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    IMO now with the brilliant mid ranges that asus are pulling out with the P45 chipset at good prices, IMO go for a P5Q pro.

    have you seen the antec 300? its a superb case to say the least for the budget.

    that corsair HX520W is nothing short of brillaint, definately shop to find that.

    and both geil, and g.skill have brilliant RRAM alogn with corsair, i wouldnt really go OCZ, due to faailure rates, (and crucial aswell)
     
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    A midrange Asus board, are you mad?

    As for that review, boards go wrong, it doesn't happen often with the EP35-DS3R, many people have had them here with no serious negatives, even if they did, you can have a lot worse problems with motherboards than quirky overclocking.
     
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    sam, have you seen how good the stability and OCs are for these p45 chipsets?

    asus have doen what GB did.
     
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    It doesent say the # of supported devices for the motherboard, I need at least two for the DVD-RW and the Hard Drive, everything else on the list im pretty sure dosent take up a slot, a third slot would help a lot because I might get an extra hardrive at some point
     

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