No Tags ??!!?? Plz help a frustrated newbie!

I'm pretty frustrated. Experienced with software but new to MP3 encoding. Got an AudioTron and want to rip my CD collection and set everything up.

Nice part: I'm having great success with the audio part of this. That works just fine!

PROBLEM: no matter what I do, NO tags are showing up in my MP3 files!!??!! [I've used MANY tag viewers/editors and none are seeing the tags. EncSpot, MP3tag, etc.]

I'm using EAC and Lame to do CD->WAV->mp3. I've turned on "Add ID3 Tag" in EAC's external compression options tab.

Before, I tried using CDex. Got the same results.

Any ideas, suggestions, helpful hints? I know I must be missing some simple thing.

ADVthanksANCE!!!! (Thanks in advance)

pete

 

OK, I have made [bold]some[/bold] progress. I have been ripping to WAV files, then batch-converting WAV->MP3.

I just tried doing it all in one step. Voila, the tags are there.

But... I would MUCH rather rip to WAV while sitting at the computer, then let it run all nite converting to MP3!

What does it take to get tags added when converting WAV to MP3???

 

OK, I've got image-ripping working ok.
And EAC either gets the info and/or I add it. Saved to local freeDB for safety if nothing else. Copy to clipboard allows me to set name if image *.wav easily [wonder why it doesn't default to that? oh well]
I even learned to make *.flac files, to save space vs wavs... and flac's can hold tags, AFAIK.

Problems:
1) CUE files only contain some tags, not all. No genre, year, etc etc.
2) Can load CUE (or brand new remote freedb) in foobar2000. But *can't* load from local freedb.
3) Can't store tags into the wav or flac image-file in foobar. Seems a serious downside to using an image file vs separate track files. Track files (mp3 and flac) can hold tags-per-track. Image files don't seem to be able to do that?
4) foobar2000 has a database. Seems I ought to be able to store the tag info into the database, keep it associated with the flac file, and reload the album's tracks later when needed. But that doesn't seem to work either:
-- there's no command to write track info to the database
-- there's no command to load track info FROM the db
-- in fact, the *database* commands all refer to the *file(s)*??!! With an image file, this doesn't make sense: the database entries ought to relate to tracks _inside_ the file, not to the file overall. (Any database command I invoke simply restores the raw wav/flac filename, losing the tags retrieved from freedb.)

So... I seem to be stuck. No way to save/retrieve tag info locally to go with an archived wav or flac file. The best option I've found is:
- load flac file
- hope the image is for a public CD stored in freedb,
not a private set of tracks saved locally (e.g.
a conference recording, etc.)
- retrieve the public CD record from freedb
- burn some mp3's

This is hardly what I was hoping for!

Any other ideas? If the database in FooBar2000 worked properly, that would probably fix all my troubles...

THANKS!
p

 

i always try this method..

rip cd thru ..any program.lets say cdex..
then run batch of mp3 's thru mp3 tag...in the option for freedb lookup..the 3rd option is -lookup for selected mp3's ..i select all the new mp3's and do a lookup..invariably it gives me a 2-3 options of albums with all tracknames..which i then tag on

doesnt this method work?

 

Thanks for the suggestions, folks. None of them are quite a fit... I'm making progress though and am ALMOST ready to write up Pete's New Simplified Guide To Ripping Massive CD Collections...

I like the idea of just tagging the lossless flac image file... except neither flac nor any other format I've seen can hold a CD image (single file) AND tags. This *may* force me to rip to separate files, but I still have hope

If mp3tag worked as nik99 suggests, I'd be a happy campner! Sadly, it only works if you select (a) ALL the songs, (b) in the CORRECT order, (c) for a SINGLE album. Not exactly a "batch mode" operation. FooBar2000 can do the same thing mp3tag does in this situation...

And the search goes on....

 

Hey Pholzmann,

I am not an Audiotron user but I have an ONKYO TX-NR801 receiver which can interpret some of the tag information from WAV files. I prefer keeping my songs in WAV format since it is not lossy and directly supported by my available hardware.

First off, have you already figured out how to add tags to your individual WAV files? You can use your Audiostation software or you can use EAC (preferred). For advice on using EAC, try this link:
www.nas-kan.org/detritus/audiotron.shtml#ATWavTag

If you want to encode to MP3 at some later date, you will want to transfer the tags from the WAV to the MP3 (which appears to be the issue you are having now). The only way I know how is described in this link:
www.mail-archive.com/mp3encoder@minnie.tuhs.org/msg01763.html

Let me know if you get this to work since I am going to rely on this method as soon as I am done ripping all of my CDs.

Now if I could just get someone's help to support RIFF/WAV INFO/LIST chunks in foobar2000 masstagger. Got the code from AVTagWav but am total newbie to coding DLLs...

 

re: spkrmagnt's comments...

* That code only deals with Name, Artist, Album, Track, Genre -- no year, etc. That's insufficient. Year is important, of course. Composer for classical, etc. So my issue is that neither RIFF/WAV nor FLAC store a _complete_ set of tags. Only MP3 does. And it is a "destination" format, not a "source" format.

Other notes:
* As I recall, other tools can read RIFF tags? Maybe foobar2000 or tag&rename? Sorry, my head's too full of different tools right now.
* I'm storing losslessly in FLAC files, which can be tagged to some extent without much trouble, and save lots of space over wav's.
* Note that with a Linux/Samba server, FLAC can be silently served up as WAV files for your WAV-only application(s)... [but probably not with RIFF-tag emulation... oh well).