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  1. ecknight

    ecknight Regular member

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    i just bought a wd 160gb sata II hdd and i was wondering how to hook it up cause in great newegg fashion i just got the drive and no paperwork do i have to hook up both the sata power connector and the 12 volt line in addition to the mobo hookup of course

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16822144415

    http://www.monarchcomputer.com/Merc...de=M&Product_Code=110257&Category_Code=AMD939

    there is my mobo and hdd also if u could tell me how to set it up like raid this or that cause i know nothing thanks alot
     
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    to get raid you need 2+ drives (preferably same make and size). Raid 0 is what most ppl use for its speed, raid 1 is for safety. Or get 3 drives and use 0+1 if available on your mobo
    For the power, use the sata power connector (most newish power supplies have 2 of these) or buy a molex to sata convertor
     
  3. sammorris

    sammorris Senior member

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    That's basically it in a nutshell, and I admire your choice of a WDC drive. Generally you will need a RAID card (PCI card in the same fashion as a 56k modem) to set it up.
     
  4. Starbuck1

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    I second that and third that!! I love my WD Raptor almost as much as my Wife!! I paid close to $180 for my single drive; waiting on more cash to buy the next one to configure Raid 0. So......

    In addition, you will have to make your change in the BIOS for configuring the Raid 0 setup. It's pretty straight forward after the hardware connections, but you could also refer to your motherboard manual or hit the Vendor website for doco.

    Good luck and keep us posted.
     
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    sammorris Senior member

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    mmm, i'm thinking of RAIDing two 205GB Caviar SE drives (for storage capacity mainly, the speed is a bonus), but I don't know where to find a cheap S-ATA RAID card in the UK. If anyone from the UK here can tell me where I may get one cheap, that would be much appreciated. It need only be two-port, must it must be S-ATA (all my IDE channels are used up!)
     
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    sammorris Senior member

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    No UK sellers there I'm afraid...
     
  8. ecknight

    ecknight Regular member

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    ok guys i dont think i need a card cause my mobo comes with 8 sata connections 1 raid1, 1 raid2, 1 raid3, 1 raid4, and 4 that can handle up to 3gb speeds that i can set to whatever

    but anyway i found the install instructions and they said i can use either the sata power connection or the atx 12 volt connection but not both and to keep down on cable clutter im just goin to use the atx 12 volt one since i have a cable with two on it and i am only using one right now, if the sata connection is better please tell me and i will switch
     
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    "sir edward, get stuffed"

    lol sammy baby...
    I'll have a look at those.

    I can't find out if my motherboard has integrated RAID or not because I can't access the manual from school (filtered for some reason).
    It's an MS-6775 / KTM-ILS / G52-M6775X1
    Manual is here: http://musaran.free.fr/MS6775.rar

    If you could translate that into "does it have RAID already or do i need to get a card?" i'd much appreciate it.
     
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    wel now I'm home i can check! Lol i'll try and decipher it myself and get back to you.

    <<

    Rite ok, i see this:

    "The southbridge of this mainboard is VIA VT8237 which supports two serial connectors SATA1 & SATA2.
    SATA1 & SATA2 are dual high-speed Serial ATA interface ports. Each supports 1st generation serial ATA data rates of 150MB/s. Both connectors are fully compliant with Serial ATA 1.0 specifications. Each Serial ATA connector can connect to 1 hard disk drvice. Please refer to Appendix B: VIA VT8237 Serial ATA RAID Introduction for detail software installation procedure."

    "RAID (Redundant Array of Independent Disks) is a method of combining
    two or more hard disk drives into one logical unit. The advantage of an Array
    is to provide better performance or data fault tolerance. Fault tolerance is
    achieved through data redundant operation, where if one drives fails, a mirrored
    copy of the data can be found on another drive. This can prevent data loss if
    the operating system fails or hangs. The individual disk drives in an array are
    called “members”. The configuration information of each member is recorded
    in the “reserved sector” that identifies the drive as a member. All disk members
    in a formed disk array are recognized as a single physical drive to the operating
    system.
    Hard disk drives can be combined together through a few different
    methods. The different methods are referred to as different RAID levels.
    Different RAID levels represent different performance levels, security levels
    and implementation costs. The RAID levels which the VIA VT8237 SATA
    RAID Host Controller supports are RAID 0 and RAID 1. The table below
    briefly introduced these RAID levels.
    RAID Level No. of Drives Capacity Benefits
    RAID 0
    (Striping)
    2 Number drives * 2 Highest performance without data
    protection
    RAID 1
    (Mirroring)
    2 Smallest size Data protection
    VIA VT8237 Serial ATA RAID Introduction
    B-3
    RAID 0 (Striping)
    RAID 0 reads and writes sectors of data interleaved between multiple
    drives. If any disk member fails, it affects the entire array. The disk array data
    capacity is equal to the number of drive members times the capacity of the
    smallest member. The striping block size can be set from 4KB to 64KB. RAID
    0 does not support fault tolerance.
    RAID 1 (Mirroring)
    RAID 1 writes duplicate data onto a pair of drives and reads both sets of
    data in parallel. If one of the mirrored drives suffers a mechanical failure or
    does not respond, the remaining drive will continue to function. Due to
    redundancy, the drive capacity of the array is the capacity of the smallest
    drive. Under a RAID 1 setup, an extra drive called the .spare drive. can be
    attached. Such a drive will be activated to replace a failed drive that is part of
    a mirrored array. Due to the fault tolerance, if any RAID 1 drive fails, data
    access will not be affected as long as there are other working drives in the
    array."

    I assume this means that my mobo will support RAID without additional gubbins yes?
     
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  13. baabaa

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    It appears so.

    When you boot up, go into the CMOS and check there.
    There will be a setting in there relating to RAID - enabling the SATA
    Then when you boot, you should receive some more instructions after the main POST - that should be the RAID configuration information from the SATA Controller ROM onboard....................
     
  14. sammorris

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    Cheers, that should save me much hassle, and money!
     

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