I have been having a problem playing my burned DVDs back on my DVD players. I use DVD Shrink and Decrypter and have no problem ripping them to my drive and transfering them to disc, but once that is complete, it will only play on my computer in disc form. I have two different models of old Oritron DVD players, and it usually will not work in either. Occasionaly I will luck out and I'llc atch one that works, and some of them will play on my PS2, but I'm sick of this crapshoot. And my wife is sick of me wasting money. Can anyone help me? I have used both R- and R+, and have enocuntered the same problem. My DVD players will however play finalized mini-dics from my DVD Handycam. Thanks your help.
What's the brand name and model # of your burner? What's the brand name/format/and speed rate of all your blank media you tried? PS2's are a little picky. Stand alone players can have a harder time reading backup dvds. Best option for highest standalone compatability is booktyping the plus format to dvd-rom. Not all drives have this capability,so post back your info and you may have that option. Here's some of the things that can give stand alone players fits: 1) Media quality 2) Burning too fast 3) Paper/sticker labels 4) Certain burner-burner quality! 5) Dirty lens in stand alone players. 6) Burn programs
Thanks for your response! I have a TDK burner in my tower. Unfortunately I don't have a manuel since a tech buddy "hooked me up." The only number I see on the front of it is 1280B. I have been using Maxell DVD+R and -R (8x/4.7GB/2hrs), but the +R have worked tad better, and what I currently have. Hope that info helps.
Download this free and very handy program: http://www.afterdawn.com/software/video_software/dvd-r_tools/dvd_identifier.cfm It'll give you the model#,firmware version,and the MID codes of your media.
OK, cool. I'll check that out when I get home from work. I don't know if this helps either, but I found out last night that my Oritrons are DVD200 and DVD600. Everything I've looked up on the net says that I should be using DVD-R, but that didn't work for me.
here is your drive and what it can do: http://www.videohelp.com/dvdwriters...om=&bdrom=&orderby=Name&hits=50&Search=Search you're burner is old..... and the last firmware update is from 2004: http://forum.rpc1.org/dl_search.php just put your 1280B (that's your NEC burner model #) into the search and you'll see the latest firmware as T7S4 .. Your burner can only burn the 4x and 8x disks .... no DL disks. you might want to get a newer burner that is more up to date so it can burn the newer media .... old media is getting rare to find. and here is more information about player compatibility and what you can do to try to make it work with most DVD players: 1. burning speeds: burn at 4x so there will be less writing errors (rule of thumb is to burn at half the rated speed of the disk--8X disk burn at 4x). 2. read manual for your stand alone player and use the disks that will play in your player. If your player is less than 2 yrs old then it should play the + or - R disks! I said SHOULD that's why you read the manual. 3. try booktyping your drive to DVd-ROM so it will make your +R disks more compatible to players. Read this: http://k-probe.com/bitsetting-booktype-faq.php 4. make sure that there are no finger prints or scratches on your disk that make it hard for the player to read the disk! 5. use good quality media (rule of thumb....buy the ones that are Made in Japan.) Verbatim is a top notch disk and is the only exception to this rule....some Verbatims are made in Taiwan and they are top notch! 6. and don't burn too close to the outer edge of the disk ..... which will make the disk unreadable! but using good media you will be able to burn close to the edge better than lesser quality media. Just in case I only burn no closer than 4400MB, so if you can set your programs to that, all the better! follow these little tips of the trade and you'll have better success! good luck. also read this: http://www.cdfreaks.com/print/article/113 why the +R media is better than the -R media Knowing your burner and it's capabilities will help you with what you can and can't do and what media to use. try to booktype your drive... here is an easy way to booktype your drive: and if you don't have DVDDecrypter you can download this free program here: http://www.riphelp.com/downloads/dvddec.html and you can use DVDDecrypter to check for newer firmware, too: hopes this helps a little.
Thanks a lot! I'll ahve to go chekc this stuff out tonight. I didn't realize that my burner was so old. I guess that's what happens when you get it for free.
hey it still working! just remember the media to use is 4x and 8x only! don't go with the newer 16x! your last firmware update was in 2004! so it might not have the ability to write to the 16x media and even some 8x media might not work for you! the trick is to find the right media that works for you...... get the good stuff from Japan! try Verbatim too! good luck. And Saugmon.... I'm sorry I beat ya to the punch! I just said what you would have said!
Yeah, I mean it's a brand new burner. I just got it for free about 8 months ago. I wish there was an easy answer. I just hate having to waste money trying different discs all the time. It's a pain in the ass. Let me ask you this. Are the burned movies I have right now useless? Can I reburn them to a different format? I think I wiped most of them off of my hard drive.
why would your burned movies be useless? the next thing is ..... buy new DVD players! they are cheap now and you can get one for less than 60.00! I have this Sony 5 Changer DVD/CD player and it takes on all disks, even MP3s! I love it..... http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage...t&productCategoryId=cat03013&id=1138083263924
Having used 8 burners, I know the variations between how their backups play on the many stand alones that play my backups. Huge compatability differences between burners. A lot of peeps don't notice this because their player or couple players happen to play their backups. Now when you got 50+ players having played your backups,and you'll see a higher rate of no disc errors. That's why you gotta rule out the Media quality,burn speed,target size,updated firmware,burn engine. Once you rule that out,its a drive's fault. At least your pc is playing it's own backups. After that,come the stand alones. With all those issues,and everything I listed doesn't help: Drive replacement.You can pic up an el-cheapo stand alone player for $20=-$30. Rumor has it the radio shack will have a $15 player during it's black friday sale-day after Thanksgiving. You'll still be limited to viewing on that new player or pc,and slight risk that new player may have trouble with it. Pick up a player that you can return easily. Make sure it plays your backups. If not,take it back. To eliminate the stand alone player compatability factor,pick up a $35 lite-on burner from newegg.com. I'd recommend a benq,but they are getting very scarce. Then use your TDK as the reader and the litey for burning. The litey will last longer due to the heavy burden of ripping will be on the TDK. Lite-on's have booktyping capability to take care of those no disc errors. Benq,Plextor,and LG are some other brands that booktype. Booktyping can only be performed with plus format media. It sets your backup to dvd-rom,the highest compatable of all dvd formats. 95% and higher stand alone player compatability rate after booktyping!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Dash would be lower than that,and the plus would be the lowest compatable format. As long as you have a dvd drive in your pc that recognizes those backups,you have a shot at re-ripping them. Since your TDK plays it's own backups-maybe? Other factors: Again,the quality of those backups.If they were burned too fast,on crap media,or a poor burner. You want low error backups. A lot of errors or errors in the wrong spots-you'll get a crc error. Again,burner quality is the factor. All backups will have errors like PIE/PIF. I try to keep them to a minimum in case some day I may have to re-rip them. Limited HD space: You can use dvd decrypter's ISO read mode and write with ImgBurn. Backups already compressed,no encryption,and to the correct size. Decrypter would rip them faster,plus there's a couple settings adjustments to help rip backups that give crc errors. Should take 5 mins to rip.
Here is the media and drive info I got off of DVD identifier. I don't really know what I am supposed to do with it now. I also checked out that firmware udpate thing that Ihoe was talking about, but it said it was only for advanced users (which I obviously am not) and that it could damage my drive if I don't know what I'm doing. Is that true? I'm gonna hold off until I hear back from you guys. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Unique Disc Identifier : [DVD+R:RITEK-R03-002] ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Disc & Book Type : [DVD+R] - [DVD+R] Manufacturer Name : [Ritek Corp.] Manufacturer ID : [RITEK] Media Type ID : [R03] Product Revision : [002] Blank Disc Capacity : [2,295,104 Sectors = 4.70 GB (4.38 GiB)] Recording Speeds : [1x-2.4x , 4x , 6x-8x] ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** INFO : Drive = TDK DVDRW1280B - [FW T7S1] - [ATAPI] ** INFO : Write Capabilities = DVD+R DVD+RW ** INFO : Write Capabilities = DVD-R DVD-RW ** INFO : Disc = [DVD+R:RITEK-R03-002] ** INFO : Reference Speed : 1x DVD = 1385 kBps ** INFO : An Writeable Disc Is Recommended For Accurate Results ** INFO : Write Speeds (Supported By This Drive On This Disc) Listed Below ** INFO : GET PERFORMANCE Write Speed Descriptor(s) Descriptor #1 = 11080 kBps ( 8.00x) - [CLV/Non-Pure CAV] Descriptor #2 = 8310 kBps ( 6.00x) - [CLV/Non-Pure CAV] Descriptor #3 = 5540 kBps ( 4.00x) - [CLV/Non-Pure CAV] ** INFO : MODE SENSE Write Speed Descriptor(s) [Legacy Command] ** WARNING : MODE SENSE Is Obsolete And Not Always Properly Supported Descriptor #1 = 11080 kBps ( 8.00x) - [CLV/Non-Pure CAV] Descriptor #2 = 8310 kBps ( 6.00x) - [CLV/Non-Pure CAV] Descriptor #3 = 5540 kBps ( 4.00x) - [CLV/Non-Pure CAV] ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** INFO : Hex Dump Of 'Media Code'-Block Listed Below ** INFO : 4-Byte Header Preceding 'Media Code'-Block Discarded ** INFO : Format 11h (Method 1) - ADIP Information 0000 : a1 0f 02 00 00 03 00 00 00 26 05 3f 00 00 00 00 .........&.?.... 0010 : 00 00 03 52 49 54 45 4b 00 00 00 52 30 33 02 38 ...RITEK...R03.8 0020 : 23 54 37 20 00 5d 6c 00 b2 67 15 15 0b 0b 08 08 #T7 .]l..g...... 0030 : 01 19 1b 0c 0c 0c 0d 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................ 0040 : 01 00 38 38 00 31 66 1c 06 2e 23 10 04 1e 1d 01 ..88.1f...#..... 0050 : 00 00 00 31 66 1c 06 2e 23 10 04 1e 1d 01 00 00 ...1f...#....... 0060 : 02 00 54 70 00 33 67 64 1f 10 0a 0a 00 20 00 00 ..Tp.3gd..... .. 0070 : 00 00 00 43 62 75 1f 10 0a 07 00 20 00 00 00 2a ...Cbu..... ...* 0080 : 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................ 0090 : 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................ 00a0 : 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................ 00b0 : 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................ 00c0 : 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................ 00d0 : 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................ 00e0 : 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................ 00f0 : 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- [ DVD Identifier V5.0.1 - http://DVD.Identifier.CDfreaks.com ] ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
you have RITEK media which is not the best media but second rate to third rate at best. Some members love RITEK but I would only buy MADE IN JAPAN media. Read the label on the box or spindle and make sure it says MIJ. about firmware: Firmware is programming that is inserted into a programmable memory area of your drive, thus becoming a permanent part of a drive. This 'software' is called firmware and can be updated with a firmware flasher. Every company has its own methods to allow you to do a firmware upgrade. A firmware upgrade can add new functionality to your drive. Also bug fixes and improvements are done by firmware upgrades. download the update.... and double click on the .exe file that you down loaded..... it will open up and ask you what drive your want to update.... just click on your TDK burner drive and it will do the firmware update for that burner! simple and easy and it might just help you with your problem with media! but as WE (Saugmon and I) do agree that it's a compatibility problem so I would use +R media and try booktype your media to DVD-ROM! You can use DVDInfo Pro to try to booktype your drive if it isn't listed in DVDDEcrypter: http://www.dvdinfopro.com/ try to booktype your DVD+R media to DVD-ROMs .... it's not just for BenQ drives ...... see I have a Philips drive and it works for that.
http://forum.rpc1.org/dl_firmware.php?download_id=1857 That's the T7S4 firmware. I believe this is a rebadged litey,so the booktyping may work. Hold off on this and see if your drive will booktype. Dvd decrypter can also set the booktype. Go through dvd decrypter-write mode. Click the small book icon on lower/right corner.Click on the Lite-on tab and make sure it's not grayed out. If not grayed- Set your dvd+r media to dvd rom,ok. Then try a plus disc. Ritek-R03: I'll burn them all day long. Very good media,much better than the Ritek-G05.. After that burn,open up dvd identifier and look for this part: [bold]Disc & Book Type : [DVD+R] - [DVD+R] Manufacturer Name : [Ritek Corp.] Manufacturer ID : [RITEK] [/bold] Where it says Disc & Book Type- if it's booktyped it'll say this: --------------------------------------------------------------------- Disc & Book Type : [DVD+R] - [DVD-ROM] Manufacturer Name : [Hitachi Maxell Ltd.] Manufacturer ID : [MAXELL] Media Type ID : [002] Notice how it says [DVD-ROM]. Mine is booktyped,your's isn't.
Actually, I thought booktyping was the best way to go, but I wanted to check with you guys first. I guess I'm learning something. I really appreciate all of your help. Thanks a lot guys. I'll let you know how I make out. I might be able to get to it tonight, but if I don't, I'm headed out of town for the weekend, so I pry won't get to it for a few days. I'll keep you posted!
pav77- Good Luck when you get back ! - Saugmon & IHoe already beat me to the advice I would have Gave you ! & more But I think you already know what might be the problem - If your DVD Players are old - & your burns play on your Computer I would eliminate the Players 1st- Beg borrow or buy a newer player ( I left out steal cause stealings wrong ) If they play on your new player ! then the problem is the older player ! Newegg has sales all the time & black friday (SALE ) is coming too ! you might also want to update your computer with a newer burner with Booktyping capability like the other gentlemen mentioned ! That way you gain capabilities Booktyping & the ability to use higher speed media 16X ect.. Even if you don't choose to burn @ that speed You have the option and lower speed media is getting scarcer now that 16x media is out so You may have a better chance to find a better selection of media either online or locally . And on the Ritek issue I respect Ihoe and his opinion Ritek media is not all that bad - No it's not Taiyo Yuden or Verbatim Quality ! But having used many Maxell/Ritek disc & some OfficeDepot / Riteks I have no complaints ! They are a viable 2cnd or 3rd choice behind Taiyo Yudens & verbatim ! but Like Ihoe said Somepeople rave about them andsome rave at them ! guess it depends on your burner & your taste !well I've wandered & wobled enough already pav77 so good luck and let us know how you make out !
Well, I tried last night and now there is something wrong with my DVD Shrink. Every disc I tried would not back up. I kept getting an error message. So I never even got a chance to see if the booktyping in Decrypter worked. Good times.
