Problem w/Nero burn and understanding error report

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  1. jweave3

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    Anyone--brand new at this ran anydvd, then tried burn-got following report, can anyone tell me why this is not working. The dvd's were process by local production company of area high school football games.

    Windows XP 5.1
    IA32
    WinAspi: -
    ahead WinASPI: File 'C:\Program Files\Ahead\nero\Wnaspi32.dll': Ver=2.0.1.59, size=160016 bytes, created 12/16/2003 10:18:04 PM
    Nero version: 6.3.1.4 (Nero Express)
    Recorder: <Memorex DVD+/-RW True8Xn>Version: 1.G1 - HA 2 TA 0 - 6.3.1.4
    Adapter driver: <> HA 2
    Drive buffer : 2048kB
    Bus Type : default (0) -> ATAPI, detected: ?
    CD-ROM: <QSI CDRW/DVD SBW-242>Version: UD30 - HA 0 TA 0 - 6.3.1.4
    Adapter driver: <atapi> HA 0

    === Scsi-Device-Map ===
    CdRomPeripheral : QSI CDRW/DVD SBW-242 atapi Port 0 ID 0 DMA: On
    DiskPeripheral : IC25N060ATMR04-0 atapi Port 1 ID 0 DMA: On

    === CDRom-Device-Map ===
    QSI CDRW/DVD SBW-242 D: CDRom0
    Memorex DVD+/-RW True8Xn E: CDRom1
    =======================

    AutoRun : 1
    Excluded drive IDs:
    CmdQueuing : 1
    CmdNotification: 2
    WriteBufferSize: 74448896 (0) Byte
    ShowDrvBufStat : 0
    EraseSpeed : 0
    BUFE : 0
    Physical memory : 511MB (523604kB)
    Free physical memory: 106MB (108936kB)
    Memory in use : 79 %
    Uncached PFiles: 0x0
    Use Static Write Speed Table: 0
    Use Inquiry : 1
    Global Bus Type: default (0)
    Check supported media : Disabled (0)

    5.11.2005
    DVD-Copy on the fly
    10:16:48 AM #1 Text 0 File Reader.cpp, Line 118
    Reader running

    10:16:48 AM #2 Text 0 File Writer.cpp, Line 124
    Writer Memorex DVD+/-RW True8Xn running

    10:16:48 AM #3 Text 0 File DVDCopy.cpp, Line 253
    DVD Track-Information from source disc
    S01 T01 Con 0x04 Start 0 Len 2064592 (gap 0) Blank 0 Res 0 Mode TRM_DATA_MODE1 (0)

    10:16:48 AM #4 Text 0 File DVDCopy.cpp, Line 345
    Max -1 tracks of 1 allowed to copy
    1: 0 - 2064592 = 2064592, TRM_DATA_MODE1, block size 2048, read opt 0 (no read options)

    10:16:48 AM #5 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 3188
    Turn on Disc-at-once, using DVD media

    10:16:48 AM #6 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 244
    Last possible write address on media: 2295103 (510:01.28, 4482MB)
    Last address to be written: 2064591 (458:47.66, 4032MB)

    10:16:48 AM #7 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 249
    Write in overburning mode: FALSE

    10:16:48 AM #8 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 2107
    Recorder: Memorex DVD+/-RW True8Xn, Media type: DVD+R

    10:16:48 AM #9 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 410
    >>> Protocol of DlgWaitCD activities: <<<
    =========================================

    10:16:48 AM #10 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 813
    Setup items (after recorder preparation)
    0: TRM_DATA_MODE1 (1 - Data (mode 1))
    2 indices, index0 (150) not provided
    original disc pos #0 + 2064592 (2064592) = #2064592/458:47.67
    not relocatable, disc pos for caching/writing not required/not required, no patch infos
    -> TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048, config 0, wanted index0 0 blocks, length 2064592 blocks [Memorex DVD+/-RW True8Xn]
    --------------------------------------------------------------

    10:16:48 AM #11 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 982
    Prepare recorder [Memorex DVD+/-RW True8Xn] for write in CUE-sheet-DAO
    DAO infos:
    ==========
    MCN: ""
    TOCType: 0x40; Session Closed, disc fixated
    Tracks 1 to 1:
    1: TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048/0x00, FilePos 0 0 4228284416, ISRC ""
    DAO layout:
    ===========
    __Start_|____Track_|_Idx_|_RecDep_|_CtrlAdr_
    0 | lead-in | 0 | 0x00 | 0x41
    0 | 1 | 0 | 0x00 | 0x41
    0 | 1 | 1 | 0x00 | 0x41
    2064592 | lead-out | 1 | 0x00 | 0x41

    10:16:48 AM #12 Phase 36 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1807
    Burn process started at 8x (11,040 KB/s)

    10:16:48 AM #13 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 2334
    Verifying disc position of item 0 (not relocatable, no disc pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #0

    10:16:48 AM #14 SCSI -1066 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1182
    SCSI Exec, HA 2, TA 0, LUN 0, buffer 0x03A86000
    Status: 0x04 (0x01, SCSI_ERR)
    HA-Status 0x00 (0x00, OK)
    TA-Status 0x02 (0x01, SCSI_TASTATUS_CHKCOND)
    Sense Key: 0x05 (KEY_ILLEGAL_REQUEST)
    Sense Code: 0x24
    Sense Qual: 0x00
    CDB Data: 0xAD 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x08 0x04 0x00 0x00
    Sense Data: 0x70 0x00 0x05 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x0A
    0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x24 0x00

    10:16:48 AM #15 Text 0 File DVDPlusRW.cpp, Line 618
    Start write address at LBA 0
    DVD high compatibility mode: Yes

    10:20:35 AM #16 SCSI -1128 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1436
    SCSI Exec, HA 0, TA 0, LUN 0, buffer 0x0751C000
    Status: 0x04 (0x01, SCSI_ERR)
    HA-Status 0x00 (0x00, OK)
    TA-Status 0x02 (0x01, SCSI_TASTATUS_CHKCOND)
    Sense Key: 0x03 (KEY_MEDIUM_ERROR)
    Sense Code: 0x11
    Sense Qual: 0x00
    CDB Data: 0x28 0x00 0x00 0x02 0x79 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x20 0x00 0x00 0x00
    Sense Data: 0x70 0x00 0x03 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x0A
    0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x11 0x00

    10:20:41 AM #17 SCSI -400 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1436
    SCSI Exec, HA 0, TA 0, LUN 0, buffer 0x0751C000
    Status: 0x04 (0x01, SCSI_ERR)
    HA-Status 0x00 (0x00, OK)
    TA-Status 0x02 (0x01, SCSI_TASTATUS_CHKCOND)
    Sense Key: 0x04 (KEY_HARDWARE_ERROR)
    Sense Code: 0x3E
    Sense Qual: 0x02
    CDB Data: 0x28 0x00 0x00 0x02 0x79 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x20 0x00 0x00 0x00
    Sense Data: 0x70 0x00 0x04 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x0A
    0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x3E 0x02

    10:20:41 AM #18 TRANSFER -25 File Reader.cpp, Line 371
    Error reading data

    10:20:47 AM #19 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 229
    all writers idle, stopping conversion

    10:20:56 AM #20 Phase 127 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1807
    Generating DVD high compatibility borders

    10:21:44 AM #21 Phase 129 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1807
    Generating DVD borders completed successfully

    10:21:44 AM #22 Phase 38 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1807
    Burn process failed at 8x (11,040 KB/s)


    Existing drivers:
    File 'Drivers\ADPU160M.SYS': Ver=v3.60a (Lab01_N(johnstra).010529-2218), size=101888 bytes, created 8/17/2001 3:07:32 PM
    File 'WNASPINT.DLL': Ver=V1.20, size=57344 bytes, created 2/4/2003 7:24:08 AM
    File 'Drivers\PXHELP20.SYS': Ver=2.03.32a, size=20640 bytes, created 4/25/2005 1:03:00 AM (Prassi/Veritas driver for win 2K)
    File 'Drivers\atapi.sys': Ver=5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158), size=95360 bytes, created 8/4/2004 12:59:42 AM (Adapter driver for src)

    Registry Keys:
    HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\WinLogon\AllocateCDROMs : 0 (Security Option)

    Any help would be appreciated.
     
    Last edited: Nov 5, 2005
  2. saugmon

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    First off: Please edit out your nero serial number,starts with 1A20-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx

    2nd: Copying on the fly is riskier. Seeing as someone else made those backups,they probably contain many errors on them,making them difficult to rip on the fly. Try downloading to your hard drive with dvd decrypter or dvd shrink.

    Dvd decrypter would be better,it's more aggressive on damaged/problematic discs. Use the Mode ISO read to hard drive-note where those files go and click burn/harddrive icon.Then Mode ISO write/locate that mds file and click the burn/harddrive icon.Set the speed for 4x!


    Third:
    Turn off all background programs.This will free up some valuable memory.Turn off Sreen saver/antivirus/no internet/and anything else that may run during the dvd backup process.

    Use nero infotool and find the MID codes of both that disc you are trying to rip and the discs you are burning them on and let us know what those MID codes are.

     
  3. GlueEater

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    Your firmware is out of date, latest version is 1.G2. here is a link to update. ALso you Nero is out of date, current version is 6.6.0.16, your's is really old. The link below is to update firmware not nero.

    http://forum.rpc1.org/dl_firmware.php?download_id=1836

    Is your burner exteranl? If not then you have it installed wrong.

    Yeah like saugmon said edit out that serial number before someone steals it.
     
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  4. jweave3

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    Thanks for info will try what is suggested--burner is external--also tried loadng to harddrive using suggested program, but would get to 86% on one and would stop--the other got to 36% completion and stopped. These guys made the dvd from original broadcast, so I would hope they knew what they were doing. Will try your suggestions and get back--thanks again
     
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    Saugmon--told you I was novice--sorry-- ran nero info--where do I find MID Codes?
    Thanks
     
  6. pingu8

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    anyone want to crack this? creaky has kindly looked at it for me but cant see any problems. its a simulation log as wasted tons of dvd-r plus on recommendation by creaky.

    please review. thanking you all in advance.

    Windows XP 5.1
    IA32
    WinAspi: -
    ahead WinASPI: File 'C:\Program Files\Ahead\nero\Wnaspi32.dll': Ver=2.0.1.74, size=164112 bytes, created 26/10/2004 18:35:34
    Nero Version: 6.6.0.16
    Internal Version: 6, 6, 0, 16b
    (Nero Express)
    Recorder: <PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-109> Version: 1.58 - HA 2 TA 0 - 6.6.0.16
    Adapter driver: <> HA 2
    Drive buffer : 2000kB
    Bus Type : default (0) -> ATAPI, detected: ?
    CD-ROM: <MATSHITA UJDA710 >Version: 1.00 - HA 1 TA 0 - 6.6.0.16
    Adapter driver: <atapi> HA 1

    === Scsi-Device-Map ===
    DiskPeripheral : IC25N030ATDA04-0 atapi Port 0 ID 0 DMA: On
    CdRomPeripheral : MATSHITA UJDA710 atapi Port 1 ID 0 DMA: On

    === CDRom-Device-Map ===
    MATSHITA UJDA710 D: CDRom0
    PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-109 E: CDRom1
    =======================

    AutoRun : 1
    Excluded drive IDs:
    WriteBufferSize: 72351744 (0) Byte
    ShowDrvBufStat : 0
    BUFE : 0
    Physical memory : 495MB (507352kB)
    Free physical memory: 178MB (183088kB)
    Memory in use : 63 %
    Uncached PFiles: 0x0
    Use Inquiry : 1
    Global Bus Type: default (0)
    Check supported media : Disabled (0)

    5.11.2005
    UDF/ISO compilation
    20:32:40 #1 Phase 112 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
    DVD-Video files reallocation started

    20:32:41 #2 Phase 114 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
    DVD-Video files reallocation completed (no file modified)

    20:32:41 #3 Text 0 File Isodoc.cpp, Line 6356
    UDF document burn settings
    ------------------------------------------
    Determine maximum speed : FALSE
    Simulate : TRUE
    Write : FALSE
    Finalize CD : TRUE
    Multisession : FALSE
    Burning mode : DAO
    Mode : 1
    UDF Mode : UDF/ISO bridge
    UDF Revision : 1.02
    UDF Partition Type : physical
    ISO Level : 1 (Max. of 11 = 8 + 3 char)
    Character set : ISO 9660
    Joliet :FALSE
    Allow pathdepth more than 8 directories : FALSE
    Allow more than 255 characters in path : FALSE
    Write ISO9660 ;1 file extensions : TRUE

    20:32:41 #4 Phase 111 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
    DVD-Video files sorted

    20:32:41 #5 Text 0 File Reader.cpp, Line 127
    Reader running

    20:32:41 #6 Text 0 File Writer.cpp, Line 122
    Writer PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-109 running

    20:32:41 #7 ISO9660GEN -11 File geniso.cpp, Line 3309
    First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000)

    20:32:41 #8 ISO9660GEN -11 File geniso.cpp, Line 3309
    First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000)

    20:32:41 #9 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 3233
    Turn on Disc-At-Once, using DVD media

    20:32:42 #10 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 270
    Last possible write address on media: 2298495 (510:46.45, 4489MB)
    Last address to be written: 901951 (200:26.01, 1761MB)

    20:32:42 #11 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 282
    Write in overburning mode: NO (enabled: CD)

    20:32:42 #12 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 2483
    Recorder: PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-109, Media type: DVD-R
    Disc Manufacturer: RITEKG - 05
    Disc Application Code: 64, Disc Physical Code: 193

    20:32:42 #13 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 448
    >>> Protocol of DlgWaitCD activities: <<<
    =========================================

    20:32:42 #14 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 838
    Setup items (after recorder preparation)
    0: TRM_DATA_MODE1 ()
    2 indices, index0 (150) not provided
    original disc pos #0 + 901952 (901952) = #901952/200:26.2
    relocatable, disc pos for caching/writing not required/ required, no patch infos
    -> TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048, config 0, wanted index0 0 blocks, length 901952 blocks [PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-109]
    --------------------------------------------------------------

    20:32:42 #15 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 1051
    Prepare recorder [PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-109] for write in CUE-sheet-DAO
    DAO infos:
    ==========
    MCN: ""
    TOCType: 0x00; Session Closed, disc fixated
    Tracks 1 to 1:
    1: TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048/0x00, FilePos 0 0 1847197696, ISRC ""
    DAO layout:
    ===========
    __Start_|____Track_|_Idx_|_CtrlAdr_|_RecDep__________
    0 | lead-in | 0 | 0x41 | 0x00
    0 | 1 | 0 | 0x41 | 0x00
    0 | 1 | 1 | 0x41 | 0x00
    901952 | lead-out | 1 | 0x41 | 0x00

    20:32:43 #16 Phase 24 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
    Caching of files started

    20:32:44 #17 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 4120
    Cache writing successful.

    20:32:44 #18 Phase 25 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
    Caching of files completed

    20:32:44 #19 Phase 32 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
    Simulation started at 6x (8,310 KB/s)

    20:32:51 #20 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 2654
    Verifying disc position of item 0 (relocatable, disc pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #0

    20:32:51 #21 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 2379
    Recording mode: Sequential Recording Mode for Multisession

    20:32:51 #22 Text 0 File Mmc.cpp, Line 21708
    Set BUFE: Buffer underrun protection -> ON

    20:32:52 #23 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 2534
    Start write address at LBA 0
    DVD high compatibility mode: No

    20:32:52 #24 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 8862
    ---- DVD Structure: Physical Format Information (00h) ----
    Layer: 0, Address: 0 (0 h), AGID: 0; Length: 2050
    Book Type: DVD-R (2), Part Version: 2.0x (5), Extended Part Version: 0.0 (0)
    Disc Size: 120 mm, Maximum Rate: <not specified> (F h)
    Number of Layers: 1, Track Path: Parallel Track Path (PTP), Layer Type: recordable
    Linear Density: 0,267 um/bit, Track Density: 0,74 um/track
    Starting Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 30000 h (DVD-ROM, DVD-R/-RW, DVD+R/+RW)
    End Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 0 h
    End Sector Number in Layer 0: 0 h (LBN: FFFD0000 h, 4193920 MB)
    Data in Burst Cutting Area (BCA) does not exist
    Start sector number of the current Border-Out: 0 h
    Start sector number of the next Border-In: 0 h
    Media Specific [16..63]:
    00 30 01 02 04 06 00 00 - 00 08 00 00 00 00 00 00 .0..............
    00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
    00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................

    20:33:00 #25 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1286
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    21:02:31 #125 SCSI -400 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1434
    SCSI Exec, HA 2, TA 0, LUN 0, buffer 0x0B000000
    Status: 0x04 (0x01, SCSI_ERR)
    HA-Status 0x00 (0x00, OK)
    TA-Status 0x02 (0x01, SCSI_TASTATUS_CHKCOND)
    Sense Key: 0x00 (KEY_NO_SENSE)
    Sense Code: 0x00
    Sense Qual: 0x00
    CDB Data: 0x2A 0x00 0x00 0x0B 0xA4 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x20 0x00 0x00 0x00
    Sense Data: 0x70 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x0E
    0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00

    21:02:31 #126 CDR -400 File Writer.cpp, Line 311
    Unspecified target error
    PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-109\H2 T0

    21:02:31 #127 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 228
    all writers idle, stopping conversion

    21:02:31 #128 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 222
    conversion idle, stopping reader

    21:02:31 #129 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 2774
    EndDAO: Last written address was 762879

    21:02:33 #130 Phase 133 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
    Writing short lead-out

    21:02:41 #131 Phase 34 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
    Simulation failed at 6x (8,310 KB/s)


    Existing drivers:
    File 'Drivers\atapi.sys': Ver=5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158), size=95360 bytes, created 03/08/2004 22:59:44 (Adapter driver for src)

    Registry Keys:
    HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\WinLogon\AllocateCDROMs : 0 (Security Option)

     
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