Puppy Problems....

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  1. highkick

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    I ran a live cd of puppy on my laptop and it wouldn't allow me to get on the internet....any ideas?
     
  2. varnull

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    Click the "connect" icon on the desktop and follow the wizard... !!warning!!.. some thought and knowledge of your hardware and connection type required.
     
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    yea i tried that it said i was connected and then i open the browser and i get the page is unavailable when i try to go to any website...
     
  4. varnull

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    Odd.. are you connecting through a proxy or anything? Is seamonkeys file:// wherever it is page loading? If you are using a router try connecting to it first, then try ipconfig and ping both your ip and the localhost (127.0.0.1)

    Probably something up with DHCP on your network if it is used. Without knowing a lot more about your network setup I can't guess, because the wizard always just works.
     
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    Well normally the laptop runs on an antheros wireless internet connector that is internal and when i hardwire it to the linksys router it still doesn't work, but if im on windows i can connect to the interet easily. I've got a motorola cable modem that i connect to the linksys wireless router...im not sure if thats what you wanted to know but i can run xboxlive fine off of it and it is not a private network cause anyone can access it without need a key.
     
  6. varnull

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    Try connecting straight to the modem for a test ;) I use a home built 8 port router/firewall and probably the same motorola cable modem. Some of these combined wired/wireless routers are a pain, they refuse to allow a wired connection while the wireless is active.. It's a 2 networks on one device problem.

    For the wireless side you will need to ask on the puppy forums. http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=210401
     
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    thank you for the help. My laptop crashed and now it won't open windows says its missing a system file... ive tried recovering it from out of box state, but this isnt the forum to be talking about it on.
     
  8. varnull

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    ntldr by any chance? seems very common recently.

    Any luck with it running puppy connected direct to the modem?
     
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    let me try i need to remake or find the cd i used cause i think i lost it...
     
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    its missing <windows root>/system32\hal.dll it wont let me run a cd in it either....
     
  11. varnull

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    Well heres the file.. http://www.dll-files.com/dllindex/dll-files.shtml?hal
    Now puppy will allow you to boot and if you get the file on a usb or something you can stick it in the right place ;) I use puppy lots to fix broken windows systems, especially these missing dll errors.
     
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    Are you recommending me to burn it to a cd with puppy? i found the cd i burned of puppy but trying to run puppy on the live cd on my computer didn't fix anything... maybe it isn't the cd lol.... I'll try it on my home computer. My laptops usb ports haven't worked since i restored it the first time so the usb device way you are recommending won't work....
     
  13. varnull

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    You may have noticed puppy can read and write to ntfs drives. The usb system will probably work too because what you describe sounds like another stupid windows missing driver thing.

    If you connect direct to the modem with a wire, then use the pmount utility (it's under drives on the desktop) to mount your windows drive you should then be easily able to download the missing file and stick it in the right location ;)

    Just a FYI.. running a live linux cd on a proprietary windows system won't automatically fix anything.. you have to know a bit about what you are trying to attempt. Luckily we know which file is missing, and where it lives so getting it and putting it in the right place should be simple
     
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    ok well i have just tried deleting all of the partitions on the hard drive and there was an error. Ill check to be sure that the cd is a puppy cd and if not then ill download another one, but my home pc is really picky about what cds i us to burn anything on. If the cd doesn't work it'll shut down for some reason.
     
  15. varnull

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    What are you trying to do? Deleting partitions? Why?
     
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    well i was going to try to do that then reinstall windows so that i could burn puppy again. the cd i found was an iso of halo which caused the problem in the first place.
     
  17. psplvanub

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    Not tryin to be rude, but read varnulls instructions. DONT DELETE ANY PARTITIONS.

    1. Download the missing DLL to your computer here here http://www.dll-files.com/dllindex/dll-files.shtml?hal JUST KEEP IT ON THE COMPUTER. DONT BURN IT OR ANYTHING.

    2. Use the pmount utility to mount the windows drive. as varnull said: "it's under drives on the desktop"

    3. Copy and paste the missing DLL to the right place.

    I have dumbed down the instructions so a 10 yr old should be able yo follow them.

    ps. What is hal.dll used for anyway?
     
  18. varnull

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    hal.dll seems to be the "hardware abstraction layer" overlay.. linux uses similar to run base things like busses. Watch a pretty raw linux system boot and you will see "starting hal" scroll past... you need to invoke the module manually (edit rcS.d to explicitly load the module) to power down certain hardware configurations, especially with the old K6 variants or they will shut down but fail to power down, just like xp will on an amd K6/7 sometimes.

    http://windowsitpro.com/article/articleid/48583/what-is-the-hardware-abstraction-layer-hal.html
     
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