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Discussion in 'DVDR' started by cormega, Dec 10, 2003.

  1. cormega

    cormega Guest

    I looked around the site and couldnt find much of an answer, I hope someone can help me here but...

    I have a bunch of AVI movies, some Xvid and divx, and tomorrow im going to get a dvd burner, and I wanted to know the software that I will need for me to burn my movies to DVD. Also, after I burn these movies, is there anyway I can be sure they will play in my DVD player? Im not sure if DVD players play DVD-R discs... help! - Jon
     
  2. RWG

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    look at the very 1st post in this msg area by dRD.

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  3. cormega

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    Yeah, I read that but im not familiar wit all this and alot of it went over my head... can you or someone just break it down lol... sorry
     
  4. Praetor

    Praetor Moderator Staff Member

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    Standalone DVD players typically play VCDs and SVCDs (unless you have either a stupid model or an old model, or both ;-))

    In general, DVD players can read all DVD movies (i.e., *.VOB, *.IFO) whether they are burned on CD or DVD discs. Some players have issues with specific media types however (i.e., DVD+RW) so you might want to watch out for that.

    Once you have encoded a movie, almost any dvd burning proggie should suffice. :)
     
  5. cormega

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    standalone are like the average DVD players right?

    whats the difference between a VCD SVCD and a DVD-R?

    whats VOB and IFO

    "whether they are burned on CD or DVD discs."

    So you can burn dvd's on reg CD"s?
     
  6. Green1975

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    I also have over 300 AVI, XVID, and Divx movies, and have made some to dvd. Its a long process depending on your cpu speed. I have a Celron 1.2GB processor and 382Ram. It toke 5 hours to convert, a 1hour and 1/2 movie to dvd, and another 1/2 hour to burn it. I used TMPGEnc to convert the Movies I got from a P2P sites. Im guessing that where u got your too.

    The other problem with movies you get from P2P site they travel all over the world. The quality is not so good when you put it on a DVD.

    You also have to use virturalDub To save the audio from the movie as a wave if it doesn't do it for you when you use TMPGEnc software.

     
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  7. Praetor

    Praetor Moderator Staff Member

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    VCD:
    - Acronym for VideoCD
    - Specificon for NTSC VCD: 320x240 @ 23.976/29.97 Hz, MP3 224Kb/s, MPEG1 1150Kb/s
    - Specificon for PAL VCD: 352x288 @ 25 Hz, MP3 224Kb/s, MPEG1 1150Kb/s
    - Almost universal support for standalone DVD players (+99.9%)
    - Typical 700MB cds hold 75 minutes per disc (which means 2 CDs per movie)

    SVCD:
    - Acronym for Super VideoCD
    - Specificon for NTSC SVCD: 480x480 @ 29.97 Hz, MP3 224Kb/s, MPEG2 2250/2376 Kb/s (anything less than 2600 Kb/s)
    - Specificon for PAL SVCD: 480x576 @ 25 Hz, MP3 224Kb/s, MPEG2 2250/2376 Kb/s (anything less than 2600 Kb/s)
    - Typical 700MB cds hold 55 minutes per disc (which means 3 CDs per movie usually)
    - Almost universal support with modern standalones (+90%)

    DVD
    - NTSC Specification: 720x480 @ 29.97 Hz, MPEG2 insanely high bitrate
    - PAL Specification: 720x576 @ 25 Hz, MPEG2 insanely high bitrate
    - Universal compatibility dependent entirely on the specific media type you are using (i.e., some standalones dont like +RW for instance).

    Right. Standalone = home theater DVD player

    VOB
    - Acronym for Video OBject
    - Whereas VCDs and SVCDs have files with the extention *.DAT, *.MPG and *.MPEG, DVD movies came with the *.VOB extension

    IFO
    - When burning cd-images, in the same way a CUE file is associated with a BIN file, we have a IFO file associated with a VOB file.

    Yes. As long as they satisfy the DVD video standard (i.e., resolution, framrate etc). Of course you will need a bunch of CDs to do the job but the quality will be essentially the same. When burning miniDVDs you will be dealing with VOB/IFO files.

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  8. Yuriv

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    Wow Praetor, did you type all of that in, or copy and paste it from somewhere! that's dedication!

    Cormega: It sure is a slow process converting DivX/XviD files to DVD, but its not so hard once you know how.

    You sound like you need to start with the basics. I suggest that you head over to:

    http://www.dvdrhelp.com

    There are sections explaining the basic structure and differences between VCD, SVCD, and DVD-R (which Praetor mostly covered for you). There are also MANY guides explaining this process step-by-step using various tools.

    Read through some of this material, and you should have a better idea of what tools you want to try using. Once you are on your feet and have selected tools and a process to follow, head back over here if you run into problems -> we can probably get you on track.

    Although its not the fastest method, I generally use TMPGEnc Plus and TMPGEnc DVD Author to convert DivX/XviDfiles to DVD.

    Good luck
     
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  9. cormega

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    Ok, lemme rephrase...

    Why do people burn VCD's, SVCD's, Avi's, Avids, Divx, and all that, why not just one format? When I get my dvd burner, I kinda wanna know everything I need so I can start the same day


    I saw someone say you need to encode movies... why? and how?

    Let me tell my computer details...

    I have a Dell Dimension 2350 Celeron, 55.8 gigabite harddrive, Intel CPU 2.00GHZ, 256 MB of RAM
     
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  11. Yuriv

    Yuriv Regular member

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    People use different formats because they have different equipment on their computers and different needs. Remember that the vast majority of computers still don't have DVD burners (welcome to the club) and/or the suers don't really understand the way the DVD medium works.

    If you only have a CD burner, then you are obviously restricted to VCD/SVCD/AVI. As to why multiple formats:

    VCD: Can be done with a basic CDR drive, and is the most compatable format out there. Although it is much lower quality than DVD (similar to VHS), this is not noticed as much by everybody.

    SVCD: Can still be made with only a CD burner, but are higher quality than a VCD. However, they: 1) often has span more than two discs to maintain this quality; and 2) are not as compatable (meaning many standalones won't play them).

    AVI: DivX and XviD are both formats of AVI. People use AVI because they can store them on CDRs using a regular burner, and they are easy to share over the Internet because their highly compressed nature makes them relatively small in relation to their quality. The main limit of these files is that they must be viewed on your computer (unless you have a TV out on your video card or one of the rare but available set-top DivX players).

    All of the above formats require yo to re-encode the DVD content to meet different file specifications. This is generally done with a program like TMPGEnc, CCE, or Easy DivX.

    When backing up DVDs to DVD-R you could re-encode the movie to meet the same file specifications but to take up less space (so a DVD-9 could fit on a DVD-5). However, this is a very time consuming process.

    Thus, must poeple instead compress DVDs using a program like DVDShrink or DVD2One. Using this method, you get a high quality backup, in anywhere from 40 mins to 2 hours (depending on the speed of your machine and the speed of your drive).

    So the bottom line is: Choose a format that meets your needs. You ordered a DVD burner, so you can easily and quickly backup your DVDs using a method that guarantees highly compatable results and excellent quality. Not everyone has the money/knowledge/desire to choose this method.

    Since you are a total Newb I suggest that you start right here:

    http://www.chrismccann.co.uk/dvd_shrink.htm

    It includes a link to download DVDShrink, and a step-by-step guide to producing your first DVD-R backup.

     
  12. cormega

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    alrite, im gonna make an attempt, I have a DVD burner, a DVD-R and TMPGEnc
     

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