Secondary IDE Channei

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  1. creager

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    While ripping with Shrink it is very slow, so tried to check the DMA.

    Brought up the secondary IDE channel
    Device O
    Transfer Mode [DMA if available]
    Current transfer mode [Ultra DMA Mode 2 ]
    Device 1
    Device Type [auto detection]
    Transfer Mode [DMA if available]
    Current Transfer Mode [not applicable]

    What I am concerned about is the Current Transfer Mode [not applicable]
    Can you help if this is ok?
     
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    i am guessing its your dvd-rom drive,so it doesnt apply..:)
    so everything is fine
     
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    Hursty, Thank you.
    Just for the heck of it I changed out the Pioneer 109 and replaced it with a new NEC 3520A. Running Xp, 1.8 GHZ, 500mb. The computer reckonizes the new hardware. The109 has a 5 jumper positions and was jumped in the right hand spot (not marked). Indtalled the 3520 as master on end of cable.
    Now several programs will not work. Do you have any suggestions before I remove it and put the 109 back?
     
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    why dont you use the nec instead of the dvd rom drive?
    i.e have the pioneer 109/nec both installed.
     
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    Hursty,

    why dont you use the nec instead of the dvd rom drive?
    Really don't understand your question. I do have the NEC installed and took the 109 out (it is only 4X). Are you saying put the 109 back with the NEC? ok no problem to do that.
    How did you setup the master and slave?
    Remember my 109 has jumper in unmarked RH pins.
     
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    i dont have 2 burners set up,i have a dvd rom drive as a master,and a pioneer 108 as a slave
    it doesnt really matter where you put them

    btw,what do mean "only x 4".the pioneer?

    what firmware has it got?
    i think the latest is 1.5
     
  7. creager

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    Hursty,
    I meant that the 109 is a burner at 4x speed.

    Now you got me on firmware. I have done nothing about firmware, have always been a little afraid to get into that or how to do it.
    I have very limited experience on computers or flashing.
    Can you do anything to lead me in the proper direction on this?
     
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    the 109 burns dvd at x 16
    what is the firmware installed on it?
    use dvd decrypter to tell you,and also to check for upgrades

    tools/drive/check for firmware updates
     
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    I have an NEC drive and the Pioneer A09 (retail of 109). I use the Pioneer as a master and the NEC as a slave, but you can do the opposite.

    First of all, make sure you have an 80 pin ide cable. You probably have a 40 pin which limits the Pioneers speed and you will never reach 16x. 80 pin cables have Blue (motherboard), Gray(slave) and Black(master) pin connectors. You can also tell by looking at your HDD cable. That is 80 pin. Notice how many thin lines it has. If your current cable is the same then you have 80 pin. If you think you are never going to burn past 8x then don't change the cable, but it is no extra work.

    Ok. Both of your drives are now probably jumpered to Master. This is default. Decide which one you want as the master and which as the slave. It doesn't really matter. On the Pioneer, the markings should be on top on the metal chassis and not in the back. I think it has Master, slave, cable select and two reserved (maybe unmarked). However for either one, slave will be the next one over. I think your NEC has 3 jumpers so middle will be slave.

    Now, whichever one is Master should go on the top bay. This is only for convenience and has nothing to do with anything else. It is just much easier to connect both drives like this (no twisting wires around).

    The ide cable is always going to be from motherboard to slave having the largest distance and slave to master being closer distance between connectors. looks something like:

    =---------------=--------=
    \MOBO \SLV \MSTR

    See the distance difference between equal signs?

    Connect the motherboard side to the motherboard, the slave to the slave and the master to the master. Easy no?

    Next connect the audio cable thingy (small connector) to the master.

    Finally connect the power cables to the drives and make sure they are all the way in.

    For the Pioneer you should update the firmware to the most recent as it is supposed to improve burn quality and increase DL burn speed.

    If on your case you have the cover plate over your drive bay you have to take the front face of your tower off and take out the bay cover.

    Breakdown:

    -80 pin connector will improve performance
    -you must jumper one drive to master and one to slave. They are both marked, you have to look carefully.
    -for convenience put the master drive on top
    -make sure power connectors are in all the way
    -make sure you properly ground drives (use all 4 screws-on bottom holes for convenience)
    -turn off auto play. your drive will automatically play a movie after the burn - very annoying (right click my computer, select properties, device manager, cdrom, select drive, properties, settings, uncheck "auto insert notification")
    -Update firmware
     
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    JaguarGod, certainly do thank you for all the information, most helpful.
    To start I made a mistake when I said mine was a pioneer 109, it is not it is 106 only 4X. That was bad for the replys.
    I do have the 80 pin cable. Because the Pioneer is 4X was the reason for purchaseing the NEC3520. When the 106 was removed the jumper was in the RH 5th position reserve. After the 3520 was installed as master things seemed to go to hell, programs disappeared and the computer would lock up. Removed it, thought it may be bad and asked Newegg for a RMA, have not sent it yet. Replaced the 106, but made it the master, did not help so removed and replaced jumper where it was. Did not help.
    Decided to go to restore and set for June 28 the day before I installed the 3520. That helped a lot,some progams still not working. That is about where I am now.
    Will turn off auto play and try for firmware if it is still available.
    Bill
     

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