Vista False advertising

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  1. jaysfan

    jaysfan Regular member

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    Dell and other pc manufacturers advertise systems with 512 Mb of RAM and integrated video as vista capable when the RAM is actually less because of the integrated video.

    my question is: are these pc's really capable of running vista?
     
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    RAM wise, no. You didn't give any example details for said aforementioned systems. So, I can't comment on the rest of the computers' components.

    -=addition=-

    Video wise, hell no.
     
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    i ran the vista upgrade advisor and it said that everythin iss ok except the ram, so i can sue them rite?
     
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    nope as that is a beta version. wait til final release & see if still says the same.
     
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    I also did vista upgrade advise and it said i could onlyrun the buisnesss cause for the ultimemite u need better graphics ,so does this mean buisness will run smoth?
     
  6. tocool4u

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    Are you serious? If you already know that vista can't run on your PC than how can you sue them since its beta(as DDP said) you can't sue them because you buy Vista knowing your PC can't run it. Plus why would you look for something little like that the most you would get anyway is a refund and some cookies :D I' hope your kidding.
     
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    nVIDIA ForceWare Drivers for Windows Vista 96.33 Official Beta
    Posted by: soxrocker on September 05, 2006 1:32 PM
    ..If you need 'em come and get 'em..

    Drivers for the nVIDIA GeForce, Geforce 2, GeForce 3 + 4, the 'Ti' range of cards, GeForce FX and some Quadro cards. Visit the nVIDIA website for a full list of supported products.

    FileForum download



    nVIDIA ForceWare Drivers for Windows Vista 96.33 Official Beta beta
    Publisher's Description:

    Drivers for the nVIDIA GeForce, Geforce 2, GeForce 3 + 4, the 'Ti' range of cards, GeForce FX and some Quadro cards. Visit the nVIDIA website for a full list of supported products.

    NVIDIA has made available the following drivers for Windows Vista RC1 build 5600.16384.060829-2230 and higher, and should not be used with other versions of Windows Vista. The current ForceWare driver is a preview release that will enable you to test the basic features and capabilities of the new operating system.

    nVIDIA ForceWare Drivers has the following other editions available: nVIDIA ForceWare Drivers for Windows 2000/XP (32-bit), nVIDIA ForceWare Drivers for Windows 9x/Me, nVIDIA ForceWare Drivers for Windows NT and nVIDIA ForceWare Drivers for Windows XP/2003 (64-bit).


    Released: September 1, 2006
    Publisher: nVIDIA
    Homepage: nVIDIA ForceWare Drivers for Windows Vista
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    download here
    http://fileforum.betanews.com/detail/nVIDIA_ForceWare_Drivers_for_Windows_Vista/950852325/4
     
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    i don't understand

    whats this gotta do with my question
     
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    the two above articles of mine were posted here by mistake they should of been posted here
    http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/387776

    this is for you


    10 things to consider before rolling out Vista
    Posted by: soxrocker on September 01, 2006 7:14 PM
    ..Some food for thought..

    Despite the delays and uncertainties about exactly when it's going to happen, there's one thing we know for sure: Vista is coming. Organisations are already making plans, especially those that pride themselves on being early adopters. But there are some things you need to consider before taking the plunge.



    10 things to consider before rolling out Vista

    Despite the delays and uncertainties about exactly when it's going to happen, there's one thing we know for sure: Vista is coming. Organisations are already making plans, especially those that pride themselves on being early adopters. But there are some things you need to consider before taking the plunge.

    If you're starting to plan for a Vista rollout -- or trying to decide whether you actually should start to plan for it -- you'll need to evaluate factors such as hardware needs, licensing options, application compatibility, and user and staff preparation.

    1: Is your hardware up to snuff?
    Vista is famous -- or perhaps, more accurately, infamous -- for its hefty hardware requirements. Certainly, minimum system requirements are more demanding than for any previous Windows operating system.

    In reality, there are two separate sets of hardware requirements, one for machines that are merely "Vista Capable" and one for those that are "Vista Premium Ready." Whereas the latter requires a 1GHz processor, a GB of RAM and a high end video card, requirements for the former are a bit more easily (and inexpensively) attainable. It's important to remember that, although the eye candy afforded by Aero Glass is very cool, it's probably not really necessary for most business applications.

    Before you start making plans to upgrade all of your organisation's workstations to Vista, you should check out the exact system requirements on Microsoft's Windows Vista Enterprise Hardware Planning Guidance Web site.

    2: Which edition(s) of Vista do you need?
    Selecting the right edition of Windows XP was pretty simple. There were four basic varieties: Home Edition, Professional Edition, Tablet PC Edition, and Media Center Edition. If the computer needed to join a Windows domain, the first and last editions were out (MCE 2004 could join a domain, but 2005 could not). Unless you were installing on a Tablet PC, there was no need for TPCE. The logical choice for the vast majority of systems on a business network was XP Pro.

    Things get slightly more complicated with Vista. Now there are five editions: Home Basic, Home Premium, Business, Enterprise, and Ultimate. Although you probably won't want to use the Home editions on a company network, you may be less certain whether to choose Business, Enterprise, or Ultimate. Business Edition is roughly comparable to XP Pro, whereas Enterprise Edition includes extra features, such as BitLocker Drive Encryption (an added layer of security for corporate laptops), application compatibility tools, SUA (Subsystem for UNIX-based applications), and advanced multi-language support. Ultimate is a superset with all the features of all editions (including Media Center), which may be more than you need for your business PCs. You'll find more information on the editions here.

    3: Understand Vista licensing
    Microsoft hasn't officially announced licensing details for Windows Vista, but it announced last spring that Enterprise Edition will be available only to customers with a Software Assurance or Microsoft Enterprise Agreement. For smaller businesses, the Windows Anytime Upgrade license, which allows you to upgrade some editions of Vista to a higher edition, may be of interest (for example, you can upgrade Home Basic to Home Premium, or Business to Ultimate). For more info, see "Vista Anytime Upgrade Goes Beta."

    4: What about application compatibility?
    When it comes down to it, the applications, not the operating system, matter most in terms of getting the job done. One important consideration in rolling out a new OS is to ensure that your essential programs will run on it without problems.

    Vista's built-in compatibility modes will help you install and run apps that were written for previous versions of Windows. Microsoft has created the Application Compatibility Toolkit to help you identify applications that may need enhancements to work with Vista's User Account Control (UAC) feature and to fix those programs. You can also use technologies such as Virtual PC/Virtual Server or Terminal Services as a workaround for incompatible applications.

    Nonetheless, it's important to test your mission-critical applications beforehand and ensure that they will work with Vista -- or develop a plan to replace them or implement a workaround if they don't. For application compatibility resources, see this overview.

    5: Assess the network infrastructure
    Although there's no requirement that you do so, upgrading to Vista may provide you with motivation to move to IPv6. Vista includes much better support for the new Internet Protocol. With XP/Server 2003, IPv6 support requires installing a separate protocol, whereas the TCP/IP stack in Vista/Longhorn Server supports dual IP architecture and both IPv4 and IPv6 are enabled by default.

    There are many reasons to move to IPv6. A transition to IPv6 not only enhances IP security, it also allows doing away with NAT and makes it easier to incorporate video and audio into applications. For a list of advantages of IPv6, see IPv6 -- The evolution of the Internet.

    6: Who needs Vista (and who doesn't)?
    You may not want or need to upgrade all desktop systems in your organisation to Vista at once. In fact, there's a lot to be said for implementing an OS upgrade in a large company one step at a time. Upgrades shouldn't be done randomly, though. Part of your rollout plan should include assessing which users can benefit most from Vista's new features, are most in need of Vista's security enhancements, or otherwise should take priority in the rollout process.

    Clerical personnel who spend most of their computer time in a word processing or spreadsheet program may be perfectly content -- and just as productive -- continuing to use their current OS for awhile.

    7: Are your users prepared?
    Such considerations as cost, hardware, and infrastructure are important when you're making the decision to roll out a new OS, but don't forget the people factor. A minority of computer users embrace new technology eagerly and can't wait to be the first on the block to try and master the latest and greatest. But most users, like human beings in general, are resistant to change, even if the change is for the better.

    Upgrading to a new operating system always requires a learning period, regardless of how intuitive the software is, and Vista introduces some major interface changes and new ways of doing things that may frustrate your less tech-savvy users. For example, those new to Vista are likely to be confused or annoyed by the dialog boxes that AUC pops up whenever they try to perform a task that requires administrative rights, even if they're logged on as administrators.

    It's important to prepare users for the transition through education, training, and policies that don't make it harder on them than necessary. For instance, you can allow those who prefer it to switch back to the classic Windows theme to make the desktop look more familiar.

    8: Are support personnel ready?
    It's not just end users who must be prepared before the rollout. Your help desk and other tech support personnel are going to be hit with a plethora of questions and requests for assistance. Even if they're well trained and completely versed in the new OS, they need to be prepared for a much large volume of work than usual.

    You might consider adding more support personnel temporarily during and immediately after the upgrade.

    9: Is your data safe?
    Sure, if all goes well, the OS upgrade will leave all your precious data intact. But what if all doesn't go well? The most elementary, but surprisingly oft-overlooked, consideration is whether all of your data is properly backed up "just in case." That doesn't just mean having a backup program and a bunch of tapes that you shuffle every week or so. It means actually doing test restorations to ensure that those backups will work if and when you need them.

    10: What will it really cost?
    When all the other considerations are in, you can start to calculate how much it will cost to do the upgrade. Don't forget that the bottom line cost includes a lot more than the licensing fees. It also includes the cost of any necessary hardware upgrades, application modifications (or moving to new applications or new versions of the old ones), changes to the network infrastructure (if applicable), consultants you hire to help with the rollout, user training (including cost productivity while those users are away from their usual tasks), training of support personnel and IT administrators, and administrative overhead of handling all these preparations, including application compatibility testing, backup testing, and so forth.

    Once you have a realistic cost estimate, you can intelligently decide whether the benefits of upgrading are worth it or whether your company is better off using XP (or even Windows 2000) for awhile longer and waiting for the first service pack or beyond before you take the Vista plunge.

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