Why are my videos pixelated

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  1. video_man

    video_man Member

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    I'm making a short animated movie from individual pictures i took on my digital camera with a resolution of 1024x768.

    after putting them together on Adobe Premiere Pro 1.5 i'm exporting the avi's as:
    no video compression
    millions of colors
    720x480
    29.97 pfs
    aspect ratio: square pixels (1.0)
    maintain data rate
    progressive scan
    optimize stills

    but all diagonal lines in high contrast areas look like a staircase. the pixelation is really bad. thin lines even become dotted lines.

    i'm authoring the dvd's with adobe encore and it will only allow videos at 720x480, 720x486, 704x480 so it's not like i can make really high res avi's to try to avoid this problem.

    what am i doing wrong??????
     
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    video_man --
    I am certainly not an expert on the process you are using--But, If the process is correct, I would suspect the media--have you used this type of disk before without the problem? If so, then it is not the media--If this IS a first attempt with this brand, then get some high quality disks--Taiyo Yuden, Verbatim, Sony and several others--NOT Memorex!

    Whitfield
     
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    video_man,
    When you play the .avi files on the computer using Premiere are then lines present?
    Sounds like your problem is when you render the avis to mpeg-2 in Pemiere. On some of the video cards you have to render all of the content on the timeline before output to mpeg-2. That really depends on the vid card. You will probably need to check the Adobe forums to see if your card is one of the affected ones
     
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    i'm not sure how it could be the media. shouldn't all the 1's and 0's still be the same on any brand when dealing with digital media? or is it possible that maybe the brand i have (fujifilm) can't hold as much memory as another brand so adobe encore is solving this by droping pixels to result in pixelation???
    i've tried variations while exporting and they all come out with very subtle differences on the DVD so i suspect there must be some setting i'm not using while exporting.
    maybe it's from when i'm exporting the avi's. it has to shrink the images down to about 60 percent cause i'm taking my pictures at 1024x768 and the tv signal is smaller.
     
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    i'm not using an mpeg-2 (or at least i don't think i am) while exporting. is that an option in the video compression part? i'm choosing none in that field cause i'm trying to get the highest quality image i can get
     
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    video_man ,
    If you read what I wrote it depends on your video card how you have to do it when you render. Most of the time I take my videos and then go to file> export Timeline>Adobe Mpeg encoder. It encodes and then I burn that
    Are the files(timeline) when you view them on the Monitor in Premiere are the Lines present??
     
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    i can see the pixelation while viewing the timeline in premiere before exporting to avi. i'm watching it at 100% (1024x768) and the pixels are huge. but i don't see them when i'm viewing the original jpgs either in premiere or in another picture viewing program so i expected that should have gone away when it got shrunk and exported to avi. particularly because i chose progressive scan and to optimize stills.
     
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    video_man ,
    If you do not see the lines before you import the file then the problem lies w/ the setup you have for the timeline. Did you check ot the Adobe forums for the video card possibly being the problem
     
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    i took a look around at adobe's forums for premiere and only noticed a reply to someone asking about what kind of card to buy and they said: Take a look at the nVidia 6800, but just as an FYI, the graphics card will be more useful with Premiere Pro 2.0 and not with Premiere Pro 1.x
    i have an nvidia 6600 and premiere pro 1.5 so maybe that's related to my problem. but i'm not interested in dishing out $100 for premiere 2.
    i checked out the requirments in the readme file that came with premiere 1.5 and i meet or exceed them for the graphics card. it just doesn't list any brands to avoid
     
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    why would my video card effect this anyway? i'm burning them to dvd and watching them on my regular tv. if it is the video card then i won't be too suprised but it doesn't seem logical to me.
     
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    video_man
    Sorry as it took me longer to get back to you. I have been trying to duplicate what you are doing w/ the res set to what you have and can not figure out where you went wrong.

    I knew I saw this somewhere w/in the past year( see below). This is in the FAQ section. If you are getting the lines still it has to be w/ the conversion of the high res to NTSC standard viewing. I do not normally set my res as high as you on my camera
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    Encore FAQ section
    Q: Do I need to render footage to DV in Adobe Premiere Pro before outputting to MPEG-2?
    A: Every conversion step can cause quality loss, so it’s best to keep the number of renders to a minimum. When working with unrendered content in the Adobe Premiere Pro timeline, rendering directly to MPEG-2 will generate slightly higher quality output, because one render step is eliminated. However, when working with some video cards, it is necessary to render all content on the timeline before outputting to MPEG-2.

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    Do I think this is what your problem is - No. I still think it is in the conversion but I had to mention the above to make sure we have all of the bases covered. Somewhere something is not set up properly. You might have to run this one by adobe help desk. At least you can talk w/ them there. I think if it was in front of me I could figure it out but I can not duplicate this w/ my camera. sorry
     
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    the closest i can find to an mpeg2 is a microsoft mpeg4 video codec v2 which made it look like garbage.
    i'm still messing around with all my exporting options. the biggest problem is pictures with diagnal power lines. not 45 degrees diagnal, but some odd angle. they look like moving dotted lines on the tv after burning the dvd. and on the computer they look kind of like used floss before burning a dvd. this wouldn't be so bad if i didn't have lots of powerlines in the backgrounds
     

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