will burning dvd slow down your computer or use a crap load of memory???

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  1. Royman

    Royman Member

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    i took most of your advice and am going to use dvdshrink and nero to start backing up some of my movies but before i go crazy i needed to know what it does to your computer and harddrive because i just got a brand new computer from newegg.com like 5 days ago and i dont want it ruined so please help me ASAP

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    dont worry it wont ruin your computer in any way .
    burning dvds takes up most of your computers resources , so my advice is while its recoding and burning dvds go and put the kettle on .
    on average to recode and then burn a dvd it takes about half an hour from start to finish .
     
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    This could pose a problem. Two burners on the same ide cable.

    The one thing you'll have to keep an eye on is your HD space. Shrink will leave either a video_ts file or a ISO image on your local disk(default settings). So when your done you can just delete them(make sure you empty your recycle bin and or run a disk clean up).

    Last, for me ... Using Shrink w/ Nero, using deep analysis, backing up a dvd-9 ... start to finish is around 45min to an hour.
     
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    Good practice is to not do anything with the PC when Burning. Also with all the adding/deleting of large files (4Gb+)keep the Hard Disk Defragged every few weeks, stops the buffer going mad.

    Shrink isn't too bad - do a CTRL ALT DELETE and look for Shrink. Right click and set the priority to low. That way you can browse the net or whatever and it will use CPU idle time. If you don't the PC it will switch to full CPU load.
     
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    buxton,

    First you say this:
    Yes indeed it's good practice. But then why would you suggest this?
     
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    Because burning to DVD and then using resources can cause the buffer to go erratic - that can arse the DVD up. Costs money. In theory you can use the PC when burning - if I am backing up data to CD I use the PC - but never with DVD's.

    Using the PC when Shrink is running will do nothing more than slow it down a bit - as long as the process priority is set to low you can run Media Player or Winamp or load a browser and it wont kill the PC.

    In fact looking at your specs if that P4 is a HT CPU you can set one of the logical CPU's to shrink and the other to another process.
     
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    So your saying when shrink is going through the analyizing and encoding process ... using the pc won't hurt anything other than slow the process down?

    Mine isn't HT, but I can do other thing while backing up. I just don't anymore. Best practice ... leave your pc alone when backing up dvds.
    _X_X_X_X_X_[small]Dell 8250, Pentium 4 2.80GHz
    1.5 GB RDRAM, 200GB HD
    TDK 840G, Sony DDU-1612 DVD-ROM
    XP Pro, ATI All-In-Wonder 9000 Pro[/small]
     
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    If your PC is upto scratch it shouldn't make that much difference. I can run TmpgEnc and use the PC and it doesn't alter the encoding time at all.

    Same with Shrink or DVD2ONE - obviously not using the PC will speed it up - but watch the overall time to complete a process - then load in Winamp and set an MP3 playing - the time doesn't really change. If it suddenly shot up by 20 mins I wouldn't do it.

    However if you don't set the priority to Low you can't do anything with the PC as the software hogs all your CPU. It's just boring to sit and wait 20 mins for it to do it's thing, may as well browse the net or put a tune on.
     
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    the best advice from people who know is no matter how fast your pc is leave alone while recoding and burning.
    happy burning owd lads and lasses :eek:)
     
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    ps. royman , using dvd shrink and nero should get you off to a good start .
     
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    Mayhaps just an additional 5 words when burning ?



    “STEP AWAY FROM THE COMPUTER !”



    The end result ?

    Fewer coasters -

    Pete


    I do, even with my old decrepit PC
     
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    Clearly it's a matter of preference - my PC is fast enough to run Shrink/DVD2ONE/TmpgEnc/Mainconcept etc etc and browse the net, play MP3's or all three.

    Mainconcept will do a DivX to DVD in 50-60mins. All I have is a 2.2Ghz AMD Athlon!

    I just counted my DVD's - 53 burns - not one coaster - and I use cheap Bulkpaq media - £6.99 for 25.

    I am not saying everyone should run 40 apps when doing conversions or burns. He wanted to know if it will damage his PC - all I am saying is no it wont.

    Right now I am converting a 90min file to DVD in Mainconcept. It has been running for 35mins and will be done in 26mins.

    Also running, Opera, Zone Alarm, Bit Tornado, Yahoo Messenger and Winamp! It just doesn't effect it to the point were I worry. That's 61mins - it isn't gonna complete any quicker if I close all those apps. In fact it feels quicker as I am not sitting here watching a counter tick down.
     
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    buxton,

    You're defiantly on a winning streak - my suggestion is -

    1. Go to the track and bet the bank -

    2., Buy Lottery tickets, allot of them -

    3. Go play with wild women, you don't need protection - you're too lucky -

    4. Drive fast on a rain slicked street and slide and slide and slide - (God, I'm jealous -)

    5. Go sky diving, allot - You don't need a backup parachute - You be da man !!!


    As the song says, "When you're hot, you're hot !"

    Enjoy,

    Pete


    I just don't want to be there when eventually he crashes and burns -
     
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    thanks for all your help i have already burned two dvds successfully with decryptor,shrink, and nero
     
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    your welcome .
     
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    but whats wrong with my burners?
     
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    Don't look now!
    I see a little smoke in here.

     
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    You're defiantly on a winning streak - my suggestion is
    1. Go to the track and bet the bank -
    2. Buy Lottery tickets, allot of them -
    3. Go play with wild women, you don't need protection - you're too lucky -
    4. Drive fast on a rain slicked street and slide and slide and slide - (God, I'm jealous -)
    5. Go sky diving, allot - You don't need a backup parachute - You be da man !!!

    What's that supposed to mean - I am full of shit?

    If your PC can't handle the simple task of a Browser, Yahoo, Winamp, BT and the conversion of a DivX file then my advise is to stop wasting money on pre-built Compaqs and build your own - that's if you can tear yourself away from ridiculing people who are on here trying to offer advice to someone.

    For the record here is my mystical phantom PC that apparently can do things no other PC can.

    Athlon XP1800@2.2Ghz 200Fsb
    512Mb PC3200 - Dual DDR
    ABIT NF7 v2.0 nForce2
    Sony DVD ROM
    Pioneer 107
    Promise IDE100 controller
    WD40Gb
    WD80Gb
    Windows2000Pro SP4
    ATI Radeon 9800Pro
    SB LIVE Value

    And thats about it - feel free to steal the specs as I have clearly stumbled upon a magical combination.

    Hey look this has nothing to do with the original post can I be a Senior Member?
    _X_X_X_X_X_[small]I don't know what I am doing.[/small]
     
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    Royman,

    Sometimes having two burners on the same ide cable can cause errors. For some it works, if your burning successfully I wouldn't worry about it.

    @buxton,

    My pc is more than capable of multi-tasking. Again it's best practice ... that's all. Just like for me ... I recommend burning at 4x or 2.4x not 8x. And the thing is, if it works for you ... right on, don't change a thing. But there are alot of people who have tired and ended up with coasters.
     
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    I know what you mean - but if the guy above was to look at the original post the user was worried it would damage his PC. I was just making the point that you can do all kinds of crap at the same time - Windows isn't as bad as people seem to think it is. I was trying to reassure the guy that his system can handle it.

    I also made it clear that I don't use the PC when I am burning DVD's only CD's and even then only sometimes, gotta keep those buffers full.

    I really didn't need someone coming on trying to make out I am all mouth and no substance. I wasn't converting and doing all the other shit I had running to make me sound all that - that's just what I always do, convert as a background task, minimize and forget about it.

    Clearly in the post above he didn't see it that way - and comments like that don't solve anything.

    I can take a joke - but that got a bit personal. Or maybe his intentions were fair, I dunno.

     
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