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32 years of oil supply left

Discussion in 'Safety valve' started by F4HAD, Jun 3, 2008.

  1. ZoSoIV

    ZoSoIV Active member

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    a good freind of mine bought one to put on his truck i will let you know how it works out. and he actually talked to people that had one before he bought it

    if it saves say 30 to 40% in gas in would pay for itselfs prety quickly LOCO
     
  2. Auslander

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    It will not work, and as a science major, I can give you more reasons, but the most basic is this:

    Petrol and diesel engines operate based on the air:fuel ratio. The gas this is pumping in will be registered as air, not fuel. *If* it created more combustion energy, you would be producing more power, but still using the same amount of fuel. If you tuned the vehicle to lean out the fuel, you would seize the engine, as you wouldn't be able to go any more lean than you would without the "hydrogen."
     
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  3. LOCOENG

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    Also the emission would be water....so you'll need stainless steel or aluminum exhaust and valves, headers etc. so they won't rust. It might work, I really don't know....so I say nay, but go for it if it feels good. :)
     
  4. Auslander

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    *If* it is actually producing hydrogen, it could produce power allowing you to use less throttle for given responses, but you still have to meet the AFR required to keep the vehicle running....I'd rather do water or meth injection and up my timing, kind of like increasing compression, to get more power and better mileage from the same fuel.
     
  5. F4HAD

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    It is fairly appropraite to say that us humans, are not clever enough, or do not possess basic human morals to make the world a better place for our grandsons and grandaughters. It is because we neglect the world so much that eventually, humans will eat the world inside out, its a basic fact, WE ARE DESTRYOING THE WORLD, and something needs to be done about it, something far greater than turning to biodegradeable plastic bags.
    Birmingham university have developed the worlds first hydrogen powered bike, thats a start, now all they need to do is upscale it to a car, but can it be done?
     
  6. metave

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    ... I hope you meant "motorcycle."

    We don't need a more oil-efficient bicycle.
     
  7. F4HAD

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    Oil prices also keep rising and rising, people are going to not be able to afford oil in about 30 years time. Oil prices about 6 years ago were half what they are now, so does that mean in another 6 years, it will cost us £2.40 per litre?
    Somebody really needs to return to the sketchboard and make something that runs un anything but oil.
     
  8. iluvendo

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    The cure for high oil prices according to 1 economist is higher prices. Will reach a choke point (and recession) where our appetite for oil will deminish so that supply will exceed demand. Prices naturally will drop. What is to keep Opec from keeping prices artifically high. Again supply and demand. As we consume less, their income drops, and they (Opec) needs income, so they drop supply, but at high prices new competition comes online so supply goes up as demand dwidles.We also become more energy efficient at the higher prices and demand further slides. Opec has an influence on the market, but their's is not the only one. Higher oil prices are a bitter pill to swallow, but maybe just the medicine we need to reverse oil prices, JMO.
     
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  9. F4HAD

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    iluvendo, you have an excellent theory, but there are loopholes in every system, and wars and fights and political violence will definitely occur over the remaining oil
    For example, USA have has quarrels with Iran in the past anyway, and Saudi Arabia refuse to supply the world with oil anyway.
    Now, Iran and Saudi Arabia have the most amount of oil in the world, once all the oil in all neighboring countries and the rest of the countries of the world has finished, and both Iran, and Saudi Arabia refuse to give oil to USA or any other country, what do you think would happen? All hell would break loose, possibly even world war 3, and its only 30-40 years away.
     
  10. scorpNZ

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    Hydro 4000 my ass, it's nothing more than an inline water vapour supply,water injection is old no-one uses it anymore..lmao
     
  11. F4HAD

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    but its a start, everything has a foundation
     
  12. svtstang

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    If I continue to drive my car, I will single handily wipe out the crude oil supply in about 8 years. Sorry about that fellas :/
     
  13. GrandpaBW

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    Aus, where have you been the last 30+ years? Okay, in your case, the last 20 years.

    Most, if not all of what you have mentioned, has been used/developed, since the early 70's, or even before.
     
  14. GrandpaBW

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    And your sources are?
     
  15. Auslander

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    Yes, but with petroleum staying cheap, things were either not use often, like hydroelectric power, or fell into much disuse, like glass. I'm saying these things need to be brought back not just into mainstream use but majority use.
     
  16. Auslander

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    Wrong. Water injection is still very popular in the tuner scene, just like meth, for cooling the combustion chamber, having the same effect as higher octane to reduce detonation and produce more power.
     
  17. Auslander

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    Oh, and Bruce, to add to the technology spew, the US government also needs to embrace a reimbursement system, like other nations, that reward homebuilders and citizenry for using resource-saving technology through paying for some or all of the equipment required. As far as I know, they don't do this for solar panels, or windmills, or recycling publicly, or any such thing.
     
  18. scorpNZ

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    If you have an understanding of automotive mechanics go to the website & read how it works,all it's doing is introducing water vapor it's a new twist on old tech
     
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  19. F4HAD

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    I agree with aus, you see, everything must have a foundation and like I said before, even if it is a minute advancement, at least its an advancement
    Every little helps, what doesnt kill you makes you stronger doesnt it?
     
  20. F4HAD

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    And as for the "water vapour" technology, it is not water vapour at all, I've just watched an episode from "the gadget show", on which it was shown, and it was clearly said that it was, "an engine powered on hydrogen", i will do some more research on this and report back
     

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