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BD RB Beta released! - now at version 0.37.08 (April 23rd, 2011)

Discussion in 'DVD / BD-Rebuilder forum' started by Sophocles, Dec 26, 2008.

  1. binmax

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    Running at 3.43ghz with 34.59 FPS

    Turbo boost has been off since the day I installed it !! LOL

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    Running at 3.51ghz with 36.50 FPS

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    Hey Guys, I'm new to posting on this site (long time reader) and new to overclocking. I was just wondering if you guys can tell me what would be a good motherboard for a good overclock? Im currently running a 3.2Ghz Core i7 960 however it is a default mobo which came with the computer and for some reason is locked. My BD rebuilder times are around two to three hrs with the "good quality" option and am just wondering that it could be faster at encoding with the right unlocked mobo. What would you recommend?
     
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  3. Sophocles

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    Which size oase will you be installing it and what kind of RAM do you have, but that being said any decent board by Gigabyte, Asus, EVGA, and others all overclock. It's really just the some of the low end boards and factory boards that hinder overclocking.



    This really not an overclocking thread although from time to time we diverge. The reason being is that most of the guys in the overclocking threads really aren't into BD Blu-Ray backups. So we discuss it where it fits.

    Check out the links below

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=2000200280 1070645357&name=Core i7
     
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    I currently have a DE*L 435mt. I was hoping on keeping that as I upgraded from a 2.66Ghz core i7 920 to the current processor. I currently have 8GB RAM.(Samsu*g) I really like the part of the 3.0 USB portion of the mobo's you have recommended. Dont kno if there is a difference but I guess I will do a bit of research on the mainboard part. Thank you for your reply. I cant wait to see another update to BD RB as it has been the best blu ray software yet. I would definitely recommend this ideal software. Just one thing tho... When can the "Full Backup" part of the software be fixed as I am getting an unsupported disk when I make a full backup? It reads as a data disk. The menu portion of the backup reads as unsuppoted however the rest is recognised by my player.

    Model : Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU 960 @ 3.20GHz
    Speed : 3.33GHz
    Cores per Processor : 4 Unit(s)
    Threads per Core : 2 Unit(s)
    Type : Quad-Core
    Integrated Data Cache : 4x 32kB, Synchronous, Write-Thru, 8-way, 64 byte line size, 2 threads sharing
    L2 On-board Cache : 4x 256kB, ECC, Synchronous, ATC, 8-way, 64 byte line size, 2 threads sharing
    L3 On-board Cache : 8MB, ECC, Synchronous, ATC, 16-way, Exclusive, 64 byte line size, 8 threads sharing

    Computer
    Mainboard : Dell
    BIOS : Dell 1.1.4
    Bus(es) : ISA X-Bus PCI PCIe IMB USB FireWire/1394 i2c/SMBus
    Multi-Processor (MP) Support : No
    Multi-Processor Advanced PIC (APIC) : Yes
    Total Memory : 8GB DIMM DDR3
     
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  5. Sophocles

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    The real difference of the boards that I showed and your are mainly near complete control over the bios' and features such as the Front Side Bus, RAM speed control, and memory and CPU voltages. The reason that I needed to know more about your system is because you just can't drop any motherboard in any case and expect it to fit. If you swap the motherboard it not only has to fit but you will probably require a clean install of Windows as well, unless you are able to remove all previous board drivers or the new board has the same board requirements.
     
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    A complete reinstall of everything? I can handle the reinstall of windows. Would the OS not handle the drivers updates for the HDD, RAM, optical drive? I would be unsure where the controller cables go regarding the re-connection of the mother board like the power from the power supply to most of the compoents of the mobo. I recently connected a HDD.. Velociraptor 10,000rpm. Well anyway's it could be getting off the topic in this thread about BD RB bugs and fixes...Sorry. On a positive note tho would ya be able to point me in the direction of a good "complete" computer building site with video "how-to's"? It would be very much appreciated. The last site I got the jist of semi builds was Yout**e.com.

    BTW...Would you recomend this mobo?

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157184
     
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    Latest release of BD RB.


    CURRENT VERSION 0.34.03 (July 8th, 2010)


    http://www.jdobbs.net/freeware/BD-RBV03403.zip

    Changes include:

     
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    Hey Soph,

    Are you still running on one of the quad intel chips? What times are you getting on your blurays? Are you still doing everything dvd-5 or 9? Just curious. I'm to the point where my drives are busting at the seems and I'm thinking about converting everything down to dvd9, but I have noticed that the bd25 discs are coming down slightly, so I'm still up in the air on that one.
     
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    Haven't done one for about 3 weeks. Been too busy rebuilding my Recording Studio, but depending on the movie I recall that it was between 3.75 to 5.25 hours for a BD-5 or BD-9. BD-5 and BD-9 will always take longer because they require a lot more compression.
     
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    Yet another update! I guess he found a bug in the first one.




    http://www.jdobbs.net/freeware/BD-RBV03404.zip

    Minor updates are as follows:
     
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    binmax


    A little more answer to my previous reply regarding my backup type. If the movie is set largely indoors, requires a lower most bitrate, and is under 120 minutes I will backup to a BD-5, and even sometimes down-convert to 720P. If the movie is around 120 minutes and is filled with high bitrate scenes and a 640kbs soundtrack then I will probably backup to a BD-9. If the movie is loaded with special affects, more than 120 minutes by 10 minutes or more, and has a an HD sound track then I will choose BD-25. Most of my backups are still on BD-5 and BD-9 discs.

    I'm still using my two quad cores although I'm eyeballing the latest stuff to determine when it makes sense to upgrade. I have one re-encode dedicated rig with a Q9550 EO stepping overclocked to 3.75 GHz, 64bit Win7 pro, and 8 gigs of RAM, and although it won't beat an i7 a savings of a half hour just isn't enough to justify moving to a Quad i7. Especially since I have 4 computers total and will always have one free for personal use.
     
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    Are you saying that you working folder is being deleted? I'm not certain that I follow you?
     
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    I finished with a couple of upgrades to my re-encode slave PC which is a Q9550 system previously overclocked to 3.7 GHz. Because I'd just loaded it with 8 Gb of RAM I decided to clock it down a bit to insure stability and then run a test to check things out. I reached into my growing walls of DVDs and Blu-Rays (got to stop shopping. LOL) and grabbed a copy of Minority Report which is a 2:25 plus movie which should take a little time.

    Just a note: When members are posting their Re-encode times they more often than not post the physical size of the BD which really has little to do with the time it's going to take to complete a Re-encode unless they keep extras which adds more time and frames. Re-encoding is done frame by frame (which is how bitrate is also calculated when compared to available storage) which means that the total number of frames in a movie is the prime determining factor of the time it's going to take. The size of a BD is determined by extras, sound track number and type, and bitrate distribution. If all of the unneeded things are removed for a movie only Re-encode then they are simply eliminated along with their physical size.

    Now to the point I am going to post my log and some with a couple of observations:

    Note that beginning to end was about 4 hours and 15 minutes doing a 2 pass re-encode to BD-9 (normally I would dump the DTS and go for 448kbs on a BD-5 or BD-9 unless the BD-9 is a sub 2 hour movie). I monitored processor and RAM usuage with Windows Performance monitor.

    Up to and during the Re-encode phase I noticed little benefit to having the extra RAM although admittedly I had lowered the clock speed of the processor by about 150 Mhz and that could have made some small impact. It was during the Rebuild phase that I noticed something quite different. It seemed to be proceeding faster than usual. I observed Windows Performance monitor and noticed that about 98% of available RAM was being used. In a sense the work had shifted from being processor limited to RAM limited. In short I believe that the Rebuild phase is memory dependent and some speed gains will be realized by a 64bit system with extra RAM.

    Now for question@ binmax. Are you using 32bit or 64bit Windows, and how much RAM do you have?
     
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    I have 2 identical systems, one with a 6 core and one with a quad. I am running 4GB of ram on both. I have 32bit XP on both. I have 32 and 64bit Windows 7 discs, but I am reluctant to wipe either computer out since they are both running so smoothly. I only upgraded the one computer to a 6 core so I could test differences between the 2 CPUs. If I switch over to Windows 7 on one system, I will have to do both....LOL.

    What are the biggest advantages to 64bit over 32bit besides RAM? Have you tested the same movie with 32 and 64 bit systems?
     
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    I'm no longer running Windows XP on any of my rigs. On my two main rigs I'm running Windows 7 64bit Q9550 system (8 GB RAM) and Windows 7 32 bit Q9650 (4 GB RAM). There are always caveats when upgrading to an OS let alone a 64bit OS but I have to say that the transition was rather easy for me. Everything worked the first time so no issues. I make all my working Primary disks expendable by saving everything to slave drives.

    32 bit windows as you know can only address a total of 4 Gb of RAM and since some of that is reserved for other items withing the system that contains memory only about 3.25 Gb is actually usable. On a 64bit system the physical limit is 192 GB of RAM which is kind of a moot point since commercial boards generally have no more than 4 slots with 2 channel and 6 slots with 3 channel, and since the largest modules are only 2 Gb the real maximum for a common user system is 12 GB . When everything is running under 64bit with adequate RAM you have increased performance because it limits hard drive swapping/paging. Think of the size of the file that you're working with and then imagine if more of it could be opened in physical memory how much faster things would run.

    This was typed in a hurry so good luck making sense of it. LOL
     
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    Version 34.05 Released

    http://www.jdobbs.net/freeware/BD-RBV03405.zip

    There seems to be some rather significant Changes:

     
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    Sophocles, Can you answer this question? I am currently building an ultimate p.c. for all my gaming needs and am a bit unsure about that if I have some 3Gb/s and 6Gb/s controller cables would they both be used for an optical drive and a HDD,(Hard Disk Drive)? I have the idea that the SATA controller cables that were supplied with the mobo would be just for the HDD. Am I going to have to buy a different type of cable for the ODD,(Optical Disk Drive). (The reason for the brackets is incase someone does not kno what the abbreviation means).
     
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    I wouldn't worry about the cables because they come with the motherboard and yes if your hard drives and optical drives are SATA then they will use the same but separate cables. What are the motherboard, processor, hard drives, and optical drives you're using to build it with?
     
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    The mother board is an ASUS SKT-1366 P6X58D-E, the processor is an intel core 980x, the hard drive Western Digital caviar black 6Gb/s, and the optical drive is a Lite-On 10x blu ray RW.

    The mobo arrived with both 3Gb/s SATA controller cables and 6Gb/s cables.
     
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