Unreal Tournament 2003 is SecuROM 4.8 cd protected(disc 1). Read the following thread on how to make a backup. http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/23699 Shoey
Thank you Shoey! But I already tried it. I burned my ".BIN" file (UT2003_CD1.bin) with BlindWrite (1 cd just ".BWT" and other cd also cd1 but with ".BWA" which I downloaded from the link you posted on some page) It has a SecureRom 4.8x protection, as ClonyXXL showed, so I burned it using "DAO PW", but I still get this error: *********************************************** Failed reading source file: F:\Textures\BarrensArchitecture.utx (The operation completed successfully.) The source media may be bad. If installing from a CD, try cleaning the CD to remove any dirt, check your CD drive, and try again. *********************************************** And I actually found this file in the internet, but it is about 8mb while the original one is 24mb as I saw after extracted all the files with WinISO in seperate folder. BUT: 1) I have downloaded ".BIN" file from the internet. I didn't buy this game. 2) I want to play "multiplayer" 3) And it just won't work as I don't have an original CD-Key, and Key Generator wont work. So, if there is any point to overwrite this "BarrensArchitecture.utx" file with the one I downloaded from the internet, plz give me an advise, but still my classamate already tried it with good installed game and multiplayer didn't work as he also generated his key. Well you know... Anyway all the suggestions will be highly appriciated ;-)
SecuROM 4.8.x is a very tough cd protection. If it were me, this is how I would try to make backups with a internet download. 1) Use BlindWrite 4.25 (a must) 2) Make a new folder in the following directory C:\Program File\vso\BlindWrite\New Folder 3) Copy and paste bin& cue file (cd 1) in the new folder. 4) Rename the bin& cue (cd 1) to: UT2003_CD1 5) Use BlindWrite 4.25 and burn the UT2003_CD1 bin& cue in DAO pw mode. Label this disc "install disc" --------------------------------------------- Download a UT2003 bwa file, preferably ViRuS2k's here:http://forum.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?s=0f777d9d2687b1392741633d9a971b08&threadid=58185 Copy& paste the bwa file to the directory where you made the new folder(C:\Program Files\vso\BlindWrite\New Folder BE SURE the bwa file is named: UT2003_CD1 Open BlindWrite 4.25 and burn DAO pw mode AND check "enable bwa file". Label this disc: "play disc" Burn Bin& cue2&3 with any burning software of your choice (no cd protection on these). Now take the "install disc" and install the game along with discs2&3. After installing REMOVE the "install disc" and insert the "play" disc and see if you can play the game without error. If you encounter errors, then download FutureProofs bwa file and burn again. Shoey
Thanks Shoey! But I did the same thing yesterday... and it didn't work. BUT 1) At first I want to download a new "CD1.bin" 'cause there is no hope with this one. It's deffinetelly corrupted. 2) At the secondth - the most important: I need a "Multiplayer", basically that is the only reason I want this game (At first I downloaded Unreal 2 and I dodn't like it, so because I wanted something like "Quake 3" I decided to try UT2003) But as far as I know and have read on a number of pages not only this forum...in most cases (well I haven't seen anyone who could play online using downloaded game and generated CD-Key) people can't use "Multiplayer", it just won't load the list of all the servers. It's a pitty, well I have my birthday in 2 days, on the 1st of April (honestly), probably will ask my parents to buy me this game...o.K. nevermind. If you still got any ideas, until I haven't finished downloading "UT2003_CD1.bin", I would really appreciate it.
UT 2003 (cd 1) must be read with sub-q channel data. It's possible the bin you downloaded wasn't read with sub-q channel data. Last attempt would be to burn the bin, then use BlindWrite 4.25 and read the image back to your hd with option ticked "extract subcodes" if reader allows it. Then follow the steps on my previous post. Autorun enabled m8? Shoey_X_X_X_X_X_[small]Certified Computer Technician http://www.afterdawn.com Main Website^ (Afterdawn) http://www.afterdawn.com/general/legal.cfm Forum Rules^ ------------------------------------------------ Mobo: KT4VL MSI-6712 CPU: AthlonXP Barton 2.5 Ram: 512 SD-DDR[/small]
Just a moment, Shoey, but from what I know .BIN files do not store Sub-channel info at all - the image should be useless, since it will not manage to defeat secuROM (unless he got a cracked image, but in this case we cannot help him). andrew|ca should read again the original disc to get the original CD .SUB info. Or grab a proper .BWS file for Blindwrite / .SUB file for CloneCD, too. he used the correct software to extract sub-channel info (CloneCD images come in a .CCD/.IMG/.SUB set and Blindwrite images result in a .BWI/.BWT/.BWS set) but andrew|ca must tell the reader to extract SUB-channel info (to get the [bold].SUB [/bold]and/or[bold] BWS [/bold] file ...and from what he posted he doesn't seem to have a CloneCD image but, rather, a CDRWin image...what is happening?
As the PlayBack author says "...SafeDisk2 protected CDs can only be copied with certain CD-Writers. Copies of SecuROM protected CDs require special hardware - a RAW-DAO burner and a Reader, which is able to read Subchannel Data from Data Tracks. Not everybody has such hardware. Backups of SecuROM 2 protected CDs will only run from CD-ROMs, not a CD-Writer or a DVD-CD-Writer combo drive..." http://www.cdrinfo.com/Sections/Art...e=Elby+CloneCD+CD-R+Software&Series=0&index=3 ----------------------------------------------- My conclusion is, if the image wasn't read reading sub-q channel data, then thus the reason why the backup fails. ---------------------------------------------- SecuROM: SubChannel Data from Data Track : Yes SubChannel Data from Audio Track : No Fast Skip Error : No Intelligent Bad Sector Scanner : No Don't repair SubChannel : No Shoey
O.K....first of all thanks that you continue to assist me, while I'm asking questions about ".BIN" file which I downloaded (not bought the actual CD) 1) I have got 1 q. - are you talking about Unreal 2003 or about my previous post about C&C-Generals? So if I correctly understand (talking about UT2003_CD1) 1) I need to take my CD1 which I burned with BlindWrite using "DAO PW" (first CD with ".BWA" file which I downloaded from some site, using your link and another CD, all the same files, WITHOUT ".BWA") 2)Then I copy all the files from one of this CD's (I think the one without ".BWA" file) into some empty folder. 3) ?...you wrote about some ".BWS", ".SUB" files what about them. And what is this: ************************************************ SecuROM: SubChannel Data from Data Track : Yes SubChannel Data from Audio Track : No Fast Skip Error : No Intelligent Bad Sector Scanner : No Don't repair SubChannel : No ************************************************ 4) I also mentioned about the exact error while installing UT2003_CD1: corrupted "BarrensArchitecture.utx" file and the most interesting thing is that I found on e in the internet that is 8mb and the one that is in my file, after I extracted it with Win ISO is 24mb...? 5) If possible could you suggest some shared idea, 'cause I'm confused in your argument. In case of something my CD-RW is: HL-DT-ST CD-RW GCE-8320B na dmy DVD-ROM is: Pioneer DVD116 6) which one chould I use for reading/installing the game in the future, 'cause you mentioned something about probable UNcompabilty of some CDwriters to read such CDs. Thanks in advance!
I don't agree with Shoey. If you burned the CD from a BIN, the CD is BAD, it hasn't any correct subchannel info (since no sub info were stored in the .BIN). Therefore you cannot re-extract the copy and burn DAO-PW. You'll burn subchannel data from the copy, not subchannel data from the original CD (which are needed to run SecuROM protected games). You wrote the read setting for CloneCD. These are the settings necessary for extracting a correct image from the original CD. Here is the full profile needed in CloneCD: [CloneCD ReadPrefs] ReadSubData=1 RegenerateData=0 ReadSubAudio=1 AbortOnReadError=0 FastErrorSkip=0 ReadSpeedData=0 ReadSpeedAudio=0 IntelligentBadSectorScan=0 SectorSkip=100 NoErrorReport=0 FirstSessionOnly=0 AudioQuality=0 [CloneCD WritePrefs] DontRepairSubchannelData=0 AlwaysCloseLastSession=1 AmplifyWeak=0 WriteSpeed=0 But if you do not own the original CD you're done, you need to get the subchannel part from the same source (don't post it here) you got the data part from, or the burned CD will never run.
Does the model # make a big difference? I am not sure of the exact model #. By the way i was able to make a succsesfull cd image of c&c Generals and play it. I was able to do that with 3 programs: 1)CloneCD with ClonyXXL 2)Alcohol120% using SafeDisk2 3)GameDrive It worked fine. The only one that didnot work is BlindWrite i used it to write and ISO format image (maybe thats why). Even though all these 3 images worked the CloneCD one was the worst one. The only problem with it was with AUTOPLAY everything else was fine. The other 2 worked as if it were an original CD.
eLeCTR0n Makes a [bold]huge[/bold] differance. Consider the older LG (Lucky GoldStar) as an example. The LG 16x can "write regular bit patterns correctly", the LG 24x model can't. ---------------------------------------------- The reading of sub-q "audio" isn't required to make a successful backup of SecuROM, it's "optional". The CloneCD settings I posted will work for backing up SecuROM& PSX1 backups. Sub-q channel (data\audio) is stored in bin& cue format. If this were not so, then why would CloneCD give me the option to read an any image of a cd with the option to "create cue sheet". My conclusion (previous post) doesn't mean I'm right and I'm persuaded the bin file (UT 2003) cd 1 andrew downloaded is corrupt. Shoey
Shoey, just make some math. .BIN file (in size) is always an even multiple of 2352 bytes (RAW sector size) BIN size = CD used sectors * 2532 bytes (pleas note that CloneCD uses IMG instead of BIN as extension, but such files are bit-by-bit identical) Subchannel PQ need another 16 bytes, PW need 96 bytes. A Full-subchannel .SUB file of Clone CD has size: SUB size = CD used sectors * 96 bytes So you can check BIN has NO subchannel info by doing some math. Dont you agree? 'Create CUE' option is just for the sake of compatibility with other software (NERO, CDRWin). And CUE files made by CloneCD are like this: FILE "name-of-the-CD.IMG" BINARY TRACK 01 MODE1/2352 INDEX 01 00:00:00 and DO NOT load .SUB info. So .CUE/.IMG set, since do not load SUB info, are useless for backupping SecuROM. Alcohol 120%, for instance, doesn't let you save the extracted image in BIN/CUE format if Datatype=SecuROM. You can only save in MDS or CCD. This, again, because BIN/CUE has no info on subchannel data.
ehm... still about C&C Generals I believe ;-) I downloaded Deviance's bins; both files are shown in ClonyXXL (with Alcohol 120% in background) as un-protected files. I tried a different downloaded bin (same filesize, so possibly just a renamed one) which is also unprotected. At 99% I get the "error 1335 data2.cab corrupt" message. Anyone an idea what to do?
I've had exactly the same problem with DEViANCE C&C Generals. I've spent AGES trying to solve the problem. It's not a burning or CD problem i'm quite sure because i've simply extracted the bin file (using isobuster) and then opened Data2.cab and tried to extract the file which the installation fails on, and it won't extract. I've redownloaded the file from multiple sources. It's a mystery, I don't have a clue why it's not working. After trying the 4th version I was sure it was either a problem with cab files or bin files on my PC, but that was ruled out when i tried it on my 2 other computers (1 with xp, the other with 2k) and they both did the same thing. I even tried making a cab file from scratch by extracting all the files from Data2.cab which worked, and getting the files which didn't from a friend, but that didn't work either. I'm hoping someone has had this problem and managed to solve it.
ELECTRON can you please explain how you got C&C Generals to work on gamedrive? I put both cds on gamedrive, and because of that safedisk 2.8 the autoplay would load but would tell me to insert correct cd, i have tried reinstalling, and creating a new image, neither work. Can you please post the explantation on how you put generals on gamedrive, thank you.
Can Aldaco12 or Shoey or someone else answer just 2 simple questions: 1) Is there any point to download "...CD2.bin" all over again from the internet hoping that this "Data2.cab" is not corrupt and try to install the game without any errors ? 2) Will I be able to use multiplayer with generated key Thanks!
O.K. Thaks And what about redownloading "CD2.bin" with probably uncorrupt "Data2.cab" or I can find this "Data2.cab" in the internet and just download it ?
[bold]Whoever will post ways to get pirate material on the net will be BANNED!!![/bold] Sorry people, we all want to help but we are subject to strict rules http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/2487 BTW, this extract from Alcohol-soft main site should close the 'sub-channel data in BIN image format' topic Again the conclusion is: [bold] BIN/CUE (as ISO) format does not store sub-channel data info so that format cannot be used to store images of discs protected by SecuROM [/bold](unless you have cracked them - illegally - first).
