Doesn't anyone use the guides before posting "how-to" questions?

Nero is good but nto as stable.

Hmm...I'm afraid I have to totally disagree. I much prefer to burn with Nero automatically when using Shrink, in fact I like using Recode as well or better than shrink for certain jobs.

I'm not sure what you have making Nero unstable but I have no problems with any of it's programs. They are as stable as anything else I use. There are certain things you need to NOT do when having nero, like having Roxio installed, InCD, etc. As long as you follow these guidelines nero works perfectly.

 

Bigorange,
I also have had no problems with burning with NERO. Do you have a guide to follow for burning DVD's? Also, what do you do if you attempt to burn a DVD & the DVD exceeds 4.7GB?

 

So I ran a defrag but still get the message what should I do?

 

I was curious of what type of media most people use when burning DVD's. I do not know whether I should purchase the DVD+R's or DVD-R's to burn with. I won't spent the extra money for the RW's. Please let me know which one is compatible with almost anything. Thanks.

 

which one?? I have nightmares about this question!
This reminds me of the age old war between Beta or Vhs tapes
I loan disc's to my friends and some can play + and then some can play-.....????
some of the cheaper machines seem to play anything?
figure that out for me, how long till the battle is over?

 

max12 and minoux,

As far as whether you use +R or -R there is no difference quality wise only compatibility wise. The newer players play about everything, older ones don't.

A good cheap player that will play everything including Divx and mpeg is the Philips DVP 642, it's very reliable, has some cool features including bios update thru a CD downloaded off the net, a good zoom feature, and only costs 65.00.

Sony also makes a good cheap player that runs around 75.00 that also plays all formats, -,+,R,RW. So really the battle is, for the most part, over as far as compatibility issues, it's only older players that cause problems.

max12

In Nero Ultra 6 you use Nero Recode to reduce a DVD that exceeds 4.7 gigs.

Since I posted my shrink guide on page 6 in this thread, I'll go ahead and post my Recode guide here also.

This is one of the easiest methods of burning there is. If you have Nero Ultra 6, you are going to use Recode 2. All you need is an "on the fly" ripper like dvd43, anydvd, or dvd region free.

Any of these will run in the background and enable you to go into recode directly without using any other program. You install 1 of these, dvd43 is free(v1.4 and v. 3.0), anydvd and dvdregion free costs 39.00 but they have a 20-30 day free trial.

I would try anydvd, but the choice is up to you. AnyDvd is constantly being updated with new bypass encryption methods. DVD43 is not free if you use the standalone version(v2.0), so to get the free one you have to install patin couffin along with v1.4,with 3.0, it's already included. I would just use the 21 day anydvd trial.

Once installed there is nothing to do with these programs, they do their work without you ever knowing they are there.I promise you this will work. I'm going to give you step by step instructions.

NOTEYou can also rip with DVDDecrypter to your hard drive and then use those files, if you don't wish to use any of the aforementioned...

Also, as with any app make sure you get good media, this is extremely important! You can get Ritek G04 4x or G05 8x -R or get Ritek Ridata 4x +R here, for under .50 each and w/ free shipping. Make sure they are "branded" and never burn at over 4x!

http://www.meritline.com/ritek-dvd-blank-media.html


First off create a folder for your temporary files and put it where you can find it.

1-open Nero

2-open recode

3-click on recode entire dvd to dvd.

4-click on DVD-video files, then click on import dvd, when window pops up browse to your drive with the movie title, or your ripped files from Decrypter.

5- wait 1-2 min. for nero to analyze

6-you will now have a screen divided up into 3 categories, menu,main movie,extras,sometimes there might be a 4th called unreferenced material.

7-if you wish to edit/re-author, that is take anything out to reduce compression to improve pic quality, here is where you do it, click on extras, then click on the + mark. Leave menu and main movie alone,(I repeat, leave these 2 ALONE)

7a- The one exception to leaving the movie alone is if there are 2 versions, full and widescreen. I would then disable the one of your choice and leave the other one alone.

8-click on each title in extras and preview it with your slider in the preview window, you can then disable each one upon which nero will ask you to substitute a still image, say yes. Or you can raise compression on each title thereby lowering compression on the movie, if you want to keep that special feature. You can eliminate all extras by disabling them all at once and not hitting the + mark, same goes for compression, you can raise compression on all extras at once, thus raising quality of movie by lowering it's compression.

8a-when you are done click next, and choose a temporary destination folder for nero to work out of. (you should've already created this before you started)

9-check advanced analysis AND burn at once AND high quality mode,especially for large amounts of compression. I always use high quality mode for compression amts. of over 10%, the choice is up to you.

10-choose your burner as it's destination, then choose your write speed and no. of copies.

11-click burn and wait, depending on what quality settings you used. Have a drink or two, do NOT do anything else on your PC, I mean NOTHING!

12-please play your movie and enjoy.

This method is called on the fly, it goes directly from your dvd-rom drive to the disc you are burning on, it is the most simple means for burning you can get, recode does an excellent job, btw, and you're only opening one program.

If you like to rip to your HD first, then rip with DVDDecrypter in file mode and then choose (browse to) those files in Recode. As you can see Recode and Shrink work very closely in the same manner tho Recode is quite a bit faster using the advanced analysis feature.

Good luck :>)

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crueguy,

Are you trying to make a copy of a copy using Decrypter?

Or are you trying to make a backup of an original using shrink and decrypter? If so, Are you ripping with shrink and burning with decrypter or ripping with decrypter and then using those files in shrink?

A read error usually has to do with the disc you're trying to copy. It can be an encryption technique or a scratched or dirty disc. If you are trying to make a backup of an original, what is the movie and are you using the latest version of decrypter?

Also, to reinstall decrypter you must uninstall the older version first.

Also, if this is a hard copy read error have you tried using anydvd? It has a 21 day trial and deals with hard copy read errors also.

 

BIGORANGE,
Thanks for the feedback. You have been very helpful.
I understand the newer DVD players play both + & -'s, but I believe the older one's only play +'s, Is that accurate?

Also, I currently rip with Shrink & burn with NERO 6. Do you think that is the best way or do ytou like ripping with DVD Decrypter instead? Also, do you personally use DVD+R's or DVD-'Rs? If I download NERO recode, I would still have to use Shrink to rip the DVD onto my hardrive b/c I only have 1 DVD component on my computer. I think what you are syaing is that if the file on my HD that I ripped with Shrink is greater than 4.7 GB, I could use Recode to get the DVD onto 1 disc, right??? I have not had a DVD over 4.7 GB yet (one disc), but want to know how to Burn one when & if that time comes.

 

Thanks BIO Yah I am trying to back up an Original DVD but the wierd thing is when I put it into a DVD player thier is this fuzzy sound so the DVD it self might be screwing up.

 

max12,

I would bet that all of your discs were over 4.36MB (a single disc) you never saw it because when it showed up on DVD Shrink it was already compressed


CrueGuy ,

When you original screws up expect your backup to do the same. By ripping with DVDD you may well eliminate the faulty files BUT not always - it doesn't hurt to try it -

a note to everyone -

Though your burners may be 16X and your discs may be 12X, speed equals errors.

Check with the Mods here on aD and the other Addicts and Seniors - the vast majority are burning at 4X - not much faster than 6X and when they burn quickly they are on the lookout for coasters. Should even a single one appear, the first thing they do is dial; back their speed. Saving 3 minutes at the cost of a disc isn't cost effective. Even burning at 6X can lead to poor quality backups which dissappear at 4X. As it always with youth - speed isn't the best thing, it's the only thing. With age comes wisdom, spend a little time and your coaster count goes down and your quality goes way, way up.

That saying, "live and learn," means with time and experience comes wisdom and knowledge. We aren't "attacking" the youth, it's just a fact - nobody is born with knowledge and experience - it takes time - that's why the older pple have a bit more than do the youngsters.The smart kids steal from us and it lessens the time they would spend making mistakes and learning from them.

Slow down guys - it pays -

Peace,

Pete

 

Yah I will give it a shot later on tonight and just burn it. But I was watching the original today and also noticed that the video screws up bad to in it.

 

but I believe the older one's only play +'s, Is that accurate?

Not really, older ones play either +, or-, some R, some R and RW, or as the case in some(panasonic) RAM.

As far as you haven't hit a DVD over 4.7 I believe Pete has nailed it. Shrink is showing you the DVD after compressing and you're just thinking that it hasn't gone over 4.7 yet because you haven't done anything to it yet. Over 80-90% are over 4.7 g, it would be hard to think you haven't hit one yet :>)

 

I just have a quick question concerning Recode. I was trying to backup a DVD this weekend and tried Recode for the first time. Decrypter ripped the movie in about 20 minutes, which was fine, and then I used Recode to 'shrink' the thing to my HD first. When I check off the analysis and the high quality settings, the time to completion says over 3 hrs whereas if I don't do it at high quality, it's just under an hour. I was wondering if it normally takes that long to do the compression and re-encoding using the high quality setting or if there's something in my setup that's wrong. BTW, I have an Athlon XP 1700+ w/512MB RAM.

Any info would be appreciated.

 

MisterX88,

Your processor is a little slow as is your RAM. Faster times can be had by upping those 2 PLUS adding a higher end video card - i.e. G-force 128MB will make quite a difference. When I use DVD Shrink with all the settings it takes around 2 hours (depending on the DVD).

Pent 4, 2,84Ghz w/1024MB RAM and a video card w/128MB.

It's only time - the better quality is worth it. One member told me it was like looking at a 3-D image opposed to a regular TV picture.

Hope that answers your question -

Pete

 

MisterX88,

In addition to what Pete said, it is much faster to use burn at once straight to disc, I go along with always using advanced analysis also, unless compression is under 10%. Check all three boxes and forget writing to the HDD first to speed things up.

Your system is part of your problem, mine usually takes 45 minutes to about an hour on an average 2 hour movie including extras. That's with all 3 settings checked.

 

I guess it all depends on the movie and the compression. I used Recode on a Sarah Brightman concert DVD, where it's very dark (I'm not sure if that makes a difference in the encoding part) and remade the entire DVD, including menus and extras, with the main movie compressed at 71% and the encoding part took 3 hrs. Yesterday, I backup'ed Troy but only the movie part at 61% and it took only 1 hr. Didn't expect it to be faster considering the CPU was doing more compression.

 

Hi MisterX88,

Seeing the time you've entered I would suggest that you recheck your "settings" in Recode2. I'm assuming that you used that as well for your comparison, the encoding time seems too short for that compression percent. Encoding for 1 hour or less just doesn't sound right. I run a Pent 4, 2.84Ghz with 1024MB of RAM and it takes me 2X that long to do a DVD of that size.

Give it another "LQQk" sea ~>


Cheers,

Pete

 

Pete
Many thanks for help to date.
I didn't attempt to convert from US system to PAL - I'll leave that to a later date - in fear and trembling!! -- I'm still very much a newbie.
Two points you may be able help me on:
1. How to copy selected tracks from several DVDs to one DVD.
2. Can a DVD+RW be finalised so that no further info can be (over)written to it?

Thanks.

Eugeardee

 

Okie, Doki,

Here we go -

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This one is easy. Use Nero's Recode2. Follow the guide in my sig. Use the edit function to extract that bit of the movie you want to keep, put it in the left-hand side of the screen, edit it more there. Then go back to the right and go get another movie, repeat with movie after movie until the bottom line says the disc is full. Actually, you can over fill it as Recode2 can comp[press it just as DVD Shrink can. If you're taking the files off a DVD then use AnyDVD OR DVD Decrypter to rip, then let Recode2 get off your HD.

I don't know how to do that as I've never had a reason to do it (also it's too expensive to use RW media to save stuff). - While you're in Nero, just use Nero Express to "copy on the fly" and copy whatever from the RW to a single write disc. It only takes a few minutes to write "on the fly" with Nero and it will save you big $$$$.

Here's a link for Nero so that you can write to a single - (You can use everything in Nero for 30-days FREE.) Download he base program first then download Recode2. -

http://www.ahead.de/us/nero6-ultraedition.php

Cheers,

Pete

 

Hi Everyone,

I would like to start first by saying that this is an extremely helpful forum for all the beginners out there to get started on dvd burning. Secondly, I like to thank Scuba Pete for all the time and effort on posting those valuable information on the steps one need to know to get started. Yes, I actually went through all 17 pages worth of info and find every single bit extremely useful. I just burn my first successful dvd using a combination of dvd decrypter and dvd shrink.

I just want to have a few question; when I burn my dvd, I set the option to max out the quality of the burn and in turn my burn took around 2 hours to complete. I was wondering is there any other way that you can achieve an excellent quality burn without sacrificing so much time on the process...will dvd shrink and nero combo be faster than dvd shrink and decrypter? I really don't want to sacrifice the quality of the burn since I want to keep my movie as uncompressed as I could, but 2 hours are quite a long time to wait for one movie. Thanx in advance Pete and everyone in the forum for all the great posts and excellent directions.

thietlong