DVD Rebuilder and CCE vs DVD Shrink

Calibum

I use DVD Shrink to get a good look at a DVD's layout, it makes a good analysis tool but that's about it. For a ripper I use DVD Decrypter with AnyDVD running in the background and I never work on the fly. If I need to get into editing, especially if I need to edit the menu then I use DVDremake. Once I'm satisfied with the content then I use DVD Rebuilder with Cinema Craft Encoder to finalize.

If you'd like to know more then go to this thread and read up a bit. Read as much as you like or you can move to the end of the thread which is more current.


http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/97052

 

Oh man, I've got this really sick feeling in my gut right now. I may not ever even notice a difference, but's it knowing that Shrink was not doing what I thought it was doing, ugh.

Thanks for the thread, I will walk through that discussion carefully. Ripping was never an issue as I always start with an ISO on the HD. Its mostly this editing problem I have now. I will also look at this DVDRemake product.

 

Here's the link. There's also a pro vs. http://www.dimadsoft.com/dvdremake/index.php

 

I do have this nagging question from a long drive home from work. Why is it that the general community accepts the fact that DVDShrink works well for resizing DVD content at 99%-80% levels, but it is not acceptable for no compression edits?

 

A few reasons I can think of are:

dvd shrink is free

some prefer speed over quality

most aren't as particular as me

some don't have bigscreen tvs and don't notice

most don't use a true encoder like CCE and don't know any better

 

Calibum

I think that the general population is thrilled that they've learned to use a free application that they can actually work and they're satisfied with what they get. Remember that many of us used to back up on VHS and BetaMax machines. Now if one's first venture into DVD back ups begins with DVD Shrink then they would be stunned by the difference in quality. DVD Shrink isn't bad it's just not the best method. While I was beta testing the latest DVD Shrink, I was constantly pointing out that the picture quality of Shrink had an over softened quality. Some people actually like the softened effect. On high compression movies the softening effect actually hid video artifacts such as the "mosquito effect." The problem I have with using shrink is that it softens the picture quality of movies even under no compression.

I sometimes help the Distant Learning Department at the University of South Florida with their Course Content DVD's. On one such occasion they did all the filming and transfer to DVD but the result was non compliant. I played it and then began doing a back up of it and I received the non compliant warning from both Nero and CopyToDVD. Without looking into the folder for the problem I ran the movie through DVD Shrink using No Compression. Now both Nero and CopyToDVD no longer gave the non compliant warning. If using no compression has no effect on a DVD then what the heck happened there? I've since used DVD Shrink on homemade movies that report non compliancy and it always seems to work, so on that account alone I'm keeping it.

For those who're happily using Shrink, this is not an attack on it, it's a great application.

 

Well put...

 

i'm with mort81 on the use of remake with rebuilder . this is my latest recipe . dvd decrypter to rip the contents to my hard drive , dvd remake pro to edit , dvd rebuilder pro to process , cce basic to encode , and prassi ones to burn the finished product .

 

When I become a little more proficient, I will raise my expectation level and get some more capable software myself. For now, it's Recode2 and DVDCopy3 with good ol' Decrypter waiting in the wings for the 4.3 GB and less titles...

 

teflonmyk

When I'm in a hurry or the DVD size is too small to bother with encoding (RB/CCE) I use DVDcopy3. Although I have Recode I don't use it because it uses the DVD Shrink engine for compression and delivers pretty much the same quality, but it is fast with AnyDVD running in the background.

We all have our own recipes and in the end the only person we really need to satisfy is ourselves. All to often others take it personally as though by not likening their choice you've somehow insulted their God or mother.

Enjoy!

 

LMAO

Question... DVDCopy3 doesn't give you many settings to adjust. Even so, is it that much better than Recode2? The movie I compared using the two had about 68% compression, and I couldn't tell a difference. It was 2 hrs 15 min (Million Dollar Baby).