DVD2One vs. DVDShrink

CAN ANYONE TELL IF YOU CAN MAKE MALTIABLE COPIES AT ONCE
INSTEAD OF ENCODING EACH TIME YOU NEED A SECOND COPY THANKX
OH FORGOT I'M USING SHRINK AND NERO 6

 

ooooooooooooooooop's didn't realize

 

@natlady

you can burn the files from HD as often as you want
or you can copy the copy no transcoding is necessary
then

 

Attention Herbsman,

FYI
Try #1 = "no disc" error in both stand alone players and "insert a disc" on pc. Used no-name +r discs from Strathfield.

Rethink and reset a few things, stuff around turning off this and that, configuring that over there and this over here........

Try #2 = Lovely movie only copy of Dr Doolittle on Datastream

Will have Try #3 when my virus scanner stops scanning with exactly the same forumla as Try #2 but on the no-name crap. If it works then I'll let you know what I did and how I did it!

And seeing as the original topic of this thread is DVD2One vs. DVDShrink I can now put in my two bobs worth. Visited friend yesterday who has DVD2One V1.3 (I don't) so asked him if I could try it. Very simple interface and quite quick to copy full disc.

However- I didn't like not knowing what the actual compression percentage was and no preview window. I know it is simpler to use than DVDShrink but I have much more creative and quality control with Shrink - actually I am getting quite comfortable using it and trying out all the features.

IMO - If you are a newbie and don't want to fiddle too much and want movie only then DVD2One is a good choice. If you want more - use Shrink.

Now a question for ya all
Scanning around the forums last night I noticed that many in the DVD2One forum said that they only used DVD2One when copying the movie only - yet they failed to mention what they did use for full disc copy. I'm interested to know so please tell me.

 

After reading all the posts, I decided to use DVD Shrink (since I already have Nero 6). It's free and it seems there is no best programm but many good ones.

I'm new to burning DVDs and was confused with the programm DVD Decrypter. Some people seem to use it with every DVD before shrinking the DVD, some say DVD Shrink alone is enough. Does DVD Decrypter give you better quality or is it only for certain movies where DVD Shrink has problems?

When is the movie quality (using DVD Shrink) still good enough? With 70%, 65% or 60% compression? Keeping the extras (which I prefer) most movies end up with that rate.
Has anyone tried to put the extras on CD-R if the movie is a bit longer?

 

Hiya mikeeagle,

Now I am certainly no expert - still a newbie myself but I have used both Decrypter and Shrink and I'll tell you when and why.

If I can I use Shrink - to rip to my HD, encode and let it tell Nero to burn the disc.

However there are occasions when Shrink won't rip a movie to my HD - especially if the disc has errors such as minor scratches or in some cases the actual file format of the disc. In these cases I use Decrypter to do the ripping - when it hits an error it allows you the choice to retry - and often after a few (or maybe a hundred) retries it will get past the error and the file copies in full.

Then I can open it up in Shrink and do the stuff it does.

I have tried to use Decryptor's ISO read and write components to copy discs under 4.3g - but didn't have too much success - of course that was in the earlier days (hehehehe a couple of weeks ago) when I was using crappy media. I actually haven't tried it since getting some snazzy RitekGo4s.

I do think if my memory serves me correctly that Decrypter is quicker to rip most of the time so if time is short I'll use it to rip and then play with the shrinking part later when I do have time.

I've since found out that Shrink can open the ISO files which will be great because I will now be able to rip to HD a DVD9 in ISO format (much more compact than file format) and again attack with Shrink when time permits.

I hope I have shed some light on the situation for you.

 

thanx grogey! that did answer one of my questions. so I'll wait for the day when DVD Shrink has problems with one of my DVDs.

a lot of you guys say Ritek G04s are the only way to go. I found the following in my online shop: Ritek orange G04 DVD-R, Ritek purple G04 DVD-R, Ritek printable G04 DVD+R and also RITEK DATASAVE DVD+R (RITEK-R03-01) with Long-Life-Dye and said to last 500 years. all with different prices. I'm confused!

the following DVD-/+Rs are said to have won tests, too: Samsung DVD-R/DVD+R by BeAll, Philips DVD+R 4x, Memorex DVD+R 4x and Verbatim DVD+R. Anyone had problems with these? I use a LG 4040B. Or are they good, too.

 

Hey mikeeagle
We'll just take over this thread and have a two-way conversation.......no-one else is silly enough to be up at this time of night!!

With regard to your query about the quality and brand of media I'll fill you in on what I know:

Memorex are absolute crappo! A friend has done a couple of things on these for me and quite frankly all they were good for is hanging on a fruit tree as a bird scarer!
Verbatim DVD+R are no go for me - discs starts to burn and gets to 75% and hangs there to infinity and beyond!! My burner is a LITE-ON DVDRW LDW-411S
Samsung DVD-R/DVD+R by BeAll never tried them
Philips DVD+R ditto
Datastream DVD-R so so - but only if you keep movie size under 4.0g and burn at slower speed (which of course reduces quality so only use for movie only not full disc imo)
Datastream DVD+R semi ok - managed pretty well on these but still got a few tree hangers - for the price I paid I deserved more consistancy.
MEDIA ID001 DVD+R - bought from Strathfield Auto - don't even go there for movies. Ok for mp3s and data backup though.
RitekG04 - White topped inject printables - almost 100% success rate. Only hassles I've had since then is when other programs on my computer interferred while burning. For example the printer decided to go into standby in the middle of a burn.
Made note to self - turn of all unneeded programs and services and remove usb cable from multifunction centre

Have a look at this thread - might explain a bit more about the Riteks - there are even some pretty pictures:
Riteks in Victoria, Australia???
http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/77870

Hope that helps - you can learn sooooo much here - but as my dad always says the best teacher is personal experience.

ps - gee I hate it when I send the post only to discover I forgot one insy winsy little slash and 90% of my post is bold!!

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Awwwwhhhhh Shucks herbsman thanks.

I was actually tempted to write another post straight after the one about DVDShrink - saying

but thought that would be just too bold and of course you can tell what a shy retiring little country wallflower I am.

 

thanx again grogey! I bought the LG 4040B because it's said to be very compatible with all kinds of media. no problems so far. I can get the purple riteks for 1,- euro each here in Germany. seems fair and much cheaper than verbatim (over 1,50 euros).
have actually been to Australia twice and loved it!

hope there's someone who can answer my other questions.

 

Yea, right !@

 

Whoops!!

Pete I think you've caught onto me!!!!

mikeeagle - glad I could be of assistance!! Hope its all going well.

herbsman - back to using the crappy discs! I've had more success with the Datastream ones than the other. This is what I did for the Datastream:

1)ran msconfig and disabled everything - well almost I couldn't cope with having no sound so set service to still run.

2)Throughly cleaned the disc to be copied using isopropyl alcohol and shammy type cloth.

2)Started DVD Decrypter and copied disc to hard drive using iso read method. If I struck an error I just kept on clicking retry and after a while I'd get the full file to load even if it had errors. There are a few of the children's discs that have had minor scratches etc over the years and one in particular I thought I would never recover - but with a bit of perservence I now have an "as new" copy.

Note: Once I got to 500 retries with the same block I'd abort on that particular file and copy the rest of the disc. But made sure I didn't delete any of the files. I then repeated the cleaning process and reading process - skipping those files that were fine and going back to the ones that had errors until I'd succeeded.

3)Started DVDShrink and set the preferences - custom disc size to 4250 and all other settings as per the guide. I started with 4000 and then worked my way up to the above level which still produced a good end product but sacrificed less quality.

3)In DVDShrink I selected the main movie file only, and chose only 1 sound track to make the back-up. Once the movie file was selected I ran the deep analysis. (When the file needs no compression Shrink will tell you that you don't need to run the deep analysis - but - when I didn't run it again I got replay problems.)

4) I backed the movie up to a seperate hard drive on the computer and played it with PowerDVD to make sure all was well.

5) Inserted blank media and ran DVDInfoPro to check writing speed compatability. FYI The Datastream DVD-R showed best compatability with 4.0 and 2.0.

6) Once I confirmed the playback was fine I then burnt to the actual DVD disc using a write speed of 2.0.

7) Celebrated over having conquered the BAD BURNING BEAST.

With the MEDIA ID001 disc, which are +R - I followed exactly the same steps with the exceptions:
1) Custom size chosen in DVDShrink was 4100, and
2) Burn speed chosen was 2.4 speed.

Nothing like learning from experience! I also discovered with within DVDInfoPro you can check your discs for read errors - very very helpful if you feel you aren't getting anywhere as you can see exactly where the errors are - and can then choose whether it is worth the effort going through the process to make a new copy.

 

Hello there my little morning muffin grogey, I'm still not forgotten that you left me in some purple and red room somewhere in Pamonia, New Jersey with the Soprano's doing a "Mob Rub Out" next door BUT, I forgive you -

Anyhow, to help with those small "Kiddie Scratches" on your DVD's - Please add this to your recipe,

As a final resort to retrieve scratched DVD's with small to medium scratches -

Materials needed:
A soft cotton cloth
Toothpaste w/Borax
Alcohol
Pledge
Orange Juice and Vodka

Method:
START: Place the disc on a firm soft surface. Apply a small amount of toothpaste to a soft cotton cloth and apply to your DVD - Rubbing very firmly in an even stroke from the center outwards towards the edge. Repeat 10 to 15 times. Do this over the entire disc.
When finished, clean the disc thoroughly with a clean cotton cloth moistened with Alcohol, using a firm even rubbing motion from the center outwards towards the edge.
NEXT: Using a clean piece of cotton cloth, apply Pledge to the entire disc in the same manner as the toothpaste was applied above.

Attempt to play disc. Orange Juice and Vodka are to be liberally applied internally . May be repeated as required to recover disc.

Good luck,

Pete

 

Sounds great Pete - thanks for the tips - gee who would have thought toothpaste????

Just have one wee little query for you though......
What the bloody hell is Pledge? In the Catholic Church you take it when you when you make your confirmation around the age of 10 - a promise not to drink until you are 21!! Then there is of course pledging allegiance to your country and it sounds like you'll be pledging to a different country than I! heheheheheheh

But dying to find out what it is as I have all the rest of the stuff on hand and boy have I got a few discs to try that on. Buzz and Woody are waiting in the wings just dying to get back out on stage!!

herbsman - ohhhhh shucks! Thanks! I must admit it was a real buzz that I was able to beat the beast and as the song goes all by my self........

*note for Pete: Vodka yes, orange juice no - instead mix liberal quantities of Vodka with lemon squash with a dash of lime.
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just wanted to test out my sig and see if the pretty picture works - cause I want to have a cool signature too!!
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Grogeybear
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Thanks herbsman - so we know it is furniture polish but:
is it like what we call Mr Sheen and comes in a spray can? Or like Marveer that is in a bottle or like a wax type block?

hehehehehehehehehe yeah yeah I know - I need to go do a search on good old google to see what I can come up with - unless of course there is some good old Aussie out there who has already nutted the comparison out????

Oooohhh would you look at that? I can even have my choice of fragrances? Is Lemon Scented better than Country Garden for the discs?? On first glance looks like it might (just might) be similar to Aussie's Mr Sheen
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Grogeybear
who says "The best revenge is to live a good life and
Aim for charm not perfection[/small]