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Discussion in 'DVD / BD-Rebuilder forum' started by vurbal, Jun 9, 2004.

  1. Sophocles

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    Thank you for keeping your eyes open, you've assisted more people than you may ever know.
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    Yes, nice catch! I'm glad to see more people catching on because I find that the fewer people who can help with a program, the fewer newbies will try it out.
     
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    The preliminary results on my best efforts on Rebuilder/CCE with DVDshrink on its best behavior and Xcopy at full disc, and I finally got pinnacle to behave on highest quality.

    This was Braveheart, 177 minutes full disc record minus just french to fit the DVD. Plenty of action scenes. Would barely record in shrink at 48%.

    As soon as I can I will post a link to the first results along side the OE disc.

    What I can see a this point is CCE is virtually indistiguishable from the original at about 48% compression estimated by DVDshrink. No apparent artifacts. No pixelation.

    DVDshrink looks very good but is slightly fuzzy close in. No noticable pixalation.

    Xcopy looks identical to DVDshrink. Good picture but slightly fuzzy magnified.

    Pinnacle was Impressive. It looked as sharp as CCE with one minor artifact on the nose of Mel Gibson in the magnified scene. Barely noticable but its there.
    But the overall sharpness on max quality is promising.

    I had backed up Planet of the Apes just the movie because I knew it had multiple angles. It turned out good but once stripped it didn't require much compression. I was just testing a rip with shrink with no compression then rebuilder.

    I just purchased DVDremake but have done little with it yet.

    This officially makes CCE top dog in backup quality for me.
    Pinnacle is good but is picky about setup. It was easier to get rebuilder to work.

     
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    sorry guys, on the wrong page, I just saw all these new threads dealing with mccoy's problem. Never mind!
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    Great report:


    [bold]This officially makes CCE top dog in backup quality for me.


    Be careful where you say that. LOL


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    6402... I'm so glad you see the light with Pinnacle IC8. Considering time and all, what a great pic it produces. Brian got me turned on to it. Next to rebuilder/CCE, it is by far my 1st choice. If time is a factor, then it's no.1, do not like intervideo, way too many pixelation problems for me. Never mind what that test said. Also, you'll love remake, works well with rebuilder and Pinnacle(IC8 does not re-author well).
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    I too am glad at the choices you've made, but I take exception to bigorange's (sorry bud) comparison of Pnnacles Slow copy versus Intervideo's quality. In every comparison I read from a test site, DVDcopy2 won. I've over 20 backups made with DVDcopy 2 and not a single problem with pixelation.

    http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-3670_7-5024535-1.html?part=InterVideo&subj=editchoice&tag=button
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    I will admit my judgement is from hearsay and not experience. I was all set to download intervideo til I came upon these horror stories and I backed out. WE even discussed this in a previous thread. Then I talked with several members here in PM's that didn't have install problems but pixelation problems. Since these were not isolated cases, I decided that if it was that iffy I would leave it by the wayside considering I had to add a HD just to work in cos I have so much video software taking up my PC now. Maybe your system is better equipped or more compatible. I have no doubt that it works for you and the test showed it to be superior, but it ain't superior if you can't get it to work properly which, i'm sure, would be the case with me. Or maybe you just wanted to undermine my new status here at AD. LOL
     
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    [bold]Or maybe you just wanted to undermine my new status here at AD. LOL[/bold] No your new status is well deserved, but I will probably still nitpick here and there.
     
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    Hey sophocles, just kidding as you well know, but was reading thru the threads and I thought I would do a little nitpickin of my own, did you say this [bold]I downloaded the latest trial version which was fully functional for 3 days. In that time I've made 2 DiVx copies and 7 type 9 back-ups and no problems. It may be that they've quietly added a fix. Not to be put-off I've emailed them describing the problems that have been reported by members of AD and I am waiting for a reply. If I don't get one then I will just keep copying and pasting the same email until they get sick of me. From what I've seen so far if they fix any bugs that DVDCopy might have they will have a good product but they won't get my money until the issue is resolved.[/bold], so even you had reservations.....did you get any kind of a reply, if so, what did they say, and finally , what convinced you to buy it? I would like to add I respect your opinion and I don't care to spend the bucks, my biggest fear is that it wreaks havoc on my PC not that I don't like it's results or it doesn't work, I mean man, I've got plenty of them, and I'm always open to new software or methods. It's called R & D. BTW, if I didn't I'd still be using shrink and decrypter, not that there's anything wrong with that.

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    Yes I got the replies and Frisk who was one of the greatest critics said this.

    I have just tested maximum copy.

    It's not faster than shrink and the picture quality
    is similar.

    @sophocles
    I have just installed the latest Version of Intervideo
    DVD Copy 2 Platinum, it' seems the pixelation, big white artefact bug is solved. I did two movies Pearl Harbor and Green mile. Both are excellent quality copies.

    Regarding quality IV DVD copy is for sure the best program of the fast transcoding tools. The quality
    you get for a big 8GB movie in only 30min. is amazing.

    I will do some other tests especially with the DVD's
    that failed with the 1st version of IVDVD I've downloaded.

    If the bugs are really gone...we will have a real winner!!!


    http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/4/88038
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    New version of DVDrebuilder released .53, get it now on AD.
     
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    uninstall the old one or just install over?
     
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    Just right click and delete the old one, unzip and replace it with the new one and then go over application setup again. One of the nice things about this application is that it installs no .dll's. which means no uninstall problems.
     
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    Thanks sophocles, already installed over the old one, just hit replace, didn't have to reset all settings, everything was set-up from my last compilation.
     
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    I always delete the older file and then replace it with the newer file manually, out of habit, to avoid file conflicts or corruption. it's a pattern that I developed over time from experience that may be a bit dated but a clearly defined synthesis of lessons well learned.
     
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    It's a good idea, normally ,well 70% of the time, I do too. Sometimes they leave remnants anyway, but overall, it's probably the smart thing to do.
     
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    Two files with different purposes or even one that has been modified could still have the same name and yet it could still write the other out.
     
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    I have checked all that, In setup I have the path set to CCE sp set in the third line down (cce sp new). Should i use the EclCCE, Instead of the CCE exicutible?
     
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    Are there any programes that CCE sp does not like to run along side with? I am going to uninstall everything and then reinstall from scratch just in case I have missed somthing (again).
     

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