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Is Tupac Dead or Alive!!!

Discussion in 'Safety valve' started by luvnrap, Sep 17, 2005.

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  1. Unlockneo

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    WHAT?!?!? TUPAC IS DEAD!!! NOOOOOOOOO!!!!!
     
  2. Nihilator

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    You guys,

    In all seriousness I despise rap, and hip hop is just glorified RAP. Here is an argument against me first, so I can attack after :)

    I love most all reggae. I love most all "blues" bands. I hate Rap.

    What is the common denomitator here? As I see it, these three genras have only half of actually writing music down. For lack of a better word, all three have their own "melody," therefore, all that is really needed are lyrics. Now, I admit, I liked runDmc, It was different, they wrote some funny songs, (my favorite being you talk too much)

    But it got old fast. The same beat over and over again, what I call a melody, you know something that makes it music. What I see is rappers who make a ton of money because they can scream and yell terrible lyrics, (as long as they rhyme), by terrible I mean not even well written. Add gangster Rap, add all the people who have resorted to wearing their baseball hat sideways, and shorts down past the knees
    who have resorted to nothing more than screaming words, offensive words to get attention, and sell records. How long can this last? To me, it is screaming lyrics to the same damn beat, over and over and over. Whay get's me is most who appear on Jay Leno, Conan whoever, are just plain awful, yet they have this notion that they are god, musician wise, and they scream words in Rhyme. A 5 year old could write lyrcs for the next up and coming rap/hiphop group. All they gotta do is turn on the same old beat (programmed in the synthesizers of course) and scream a 5 year old little boy's lyrics, because the 5 year old has figured out rhyme.
    Why is that different than Blues or Reggae?
    1) You need a good voice for Reggae Music, and some musical instruments are actually used. Do rappers even remember what a guitar or harmonica is?

    Blues. Same thing, same beat basically. Difference: again, musical instruments, and a decent voice is required along with decent lyrics.
    (remember the guitar rapper fans?
    In summary, while all three rely on the same beat (melody) much more music is being created in Reggae and the Blues simply because of lyrics, nice sounding voices, and ACTUAL MUSICAL INSTRUMENTS are used. How many rappers can even play a musical instrument? More than 50%? I'd say, on a good year, maybe 10% of rappers no how to play an instrument. I guess the genius who turned his baseball cap sideways (which people by the, looks reall;y freaking stupid) is all the creativity we are goin g to get from rap.

    Bring it on...No, I am not white.


    I've only heard of Tupac. Was he a gangster rapper? If so,
     
  3. Glitched

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    If you pll look closly at tupacs autopsy pics you will se that,tupac doesnt have his thug life tatoo,so he is alive, "things changed when tupac moved to cuba?
     
  4. Nephilim

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    Good then I'll go next door and shoot the bastard full of holes, dismember him and send his head and whatever limb had the idiot thug thingy tatooed on it personally to all of you who think he's still alive.

    Even if he was still alive - who cares? The only thing about him that all you folks care about is his music so if he's still alive he's obviously not making music which begs the question - why care? Was he a kind caring soul that should be remembered through the ages for all hid benevolent acts? Nope. He was a piece of crap criminal that made a ton of money selling records to a bunch of suburban wannabe's who think criminals are to be admired.


    I just don't get it why people eat up all this ganster crap like it's cool. If criminality is cool then Ted Bundy could've millions rapping about beating women's heads to a pulp with an oak log, anally raping them with a hairspray can, dismembering them for wild animals to eat and he could've had a number one hit rapping about the 13 year old girl he raped then slit her throat while she was on all fours in a fuckin pig sty. That's pretty goddam criminal so it must be real fuckin cool then right?

    Would one of you please explain what is so cool and admirable about some bumhole criminal droning on about all the worthless shit he does?
     
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  5. xboxdevil

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    my friends dead i saw the death certificate(cost him $50 from a doctor he knew) and there is a coroners report somewhere and everyone that went to school school with him thinks he died.funny how i saw him a few months later and he was on the run from the cops.maybe tupac did the same thing.as for the coroners report they didnt even mention his middle name.the autopsy photo doesnt appear to have his thuglife tattoo on it.i still havnt seen the death certificate (someone give us all a link).so technically no one has proven beyond doubt that he is dead.
     
  6. sui-cyco

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    so tupac is dead,biggie is dead,jam master jay is dead,etc..who wants to take bets on the next rapper to get gunned down.the odds on favorite is 50 cent but im going with puff daddy aka p. diddy aka sean puffy combs aka the didster aka the stay puft marshmellow daddy etc...
     
  7. breexx

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    OMG ok i think that tupac isnt really dead but every one has their own opinions and to this person: "Wtf?? If he was dead why didn't the give him a funeral? They didnt show any pictures of him when he was dead. All they said they did was take his ashes and put it over his families house. Its kinda strange why his death would be so quiet almost like a setup." If you go on rotten.com there is a photo of tupacs ortopsy but then again it may not be real. . This only reslly leaves you to wonder. . is he or isnt he dead. .
     
  8. Jdilla

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    Tupac is dead, its just that his Die-Hard Fans still cant Gasp His Death. Therefore theories of him still being alive are made up. in reality tupac i believe was killed by cops, just like biggie. in fact rotten.com shows a picture of his body, not a really good angle on the pic, but im convince its him. as for his Numerous albums being released after his death? that just goes to show you how hard Tupac worked.
    i believe the man would do a whole album in one recording session.
     
  9. Makalive

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    he is alive i tell you. Like in the clip california love ft. Dr. dre he had shoes which weren't in stores when he died...... I teklll you alll he is back in about a year...than he is 1 year away.....(srr for bad english language but im from Holland)
     
  10. sui-cyco

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    quit lying....you are not from holland.you just dont know how to spell.

    i had to do that.it was just too funny not to do.
     
  11. Lethal_B

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    Hmmm, a real hoot....

    Nephilim, I actually agree with some of the stuff you say there. I thought (and still think) the man is the greatest rapper of all time, but I would be going against morals if i said he didn't deserve it somewhat.

    With lyrics like this

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    I have to say i mourn the rapper he was, rather than the person he was..

    R.I.P
     
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  12. sui-cyco

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    yeah....but that doesnt mean he is still alive.come on now,some people around here need to let go.hes dead and thats the truth.
     
  13. xboxdevil

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    like ive been saying through out this whole topic prove it.
     
  14. GrandpaBW

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    I guess most who have posted here would like YOU to prove that he is alive. Actually, I don't care if you do. He is dead, and it would appear that you can't get that through your thick skull. Get a job. You may forget all about him.
     
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    Regarding the killer. The killer may or man not be alive. If he/she is then they certainly won't turn themselves in. There are people in the rap community such as Dr. Dre, Snoop Dogg and Suge Knight and they know who did it. They won't ever reveal who it is. It's an unofficial code of the streets. No one ever rats on each other even if they are enemies. I reckon the Police know who it is but don't want to accuse someone because they will fear for their lives. This murder will remain unsolved forever and for the people who still think he's alive go read up on it.
     
  16. Lethal_B

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    I know he's dead....that doesn't have much to do with what i said.

    By the way, I remember not so long ago downloading a video clip in which [bold]Snoop Dogg[/bold] claims it was the 'driver' who killed Pac. Then he was prompted 'Are you saying it was suge knight?' He replied `yes`.

    IMO I think it was him. Why? because on a VH1 documentary it was reported he owed pac millions of dollars and didn't like the fact Pac wanted to break off Death row Records and start his own label.

    Also, Suge SURELY would have bin hit by a stray of the 9 bullets headed towards the car. The arguments backing up this also are that Suge planned it so he would look like he was also in danger of his life, in a controlled attack.

     
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    Hmm thats strange, because the concert in Atlanta back in 1996 he did 13 songs.
     
  18. Lethal_B

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    He was alive for a quantity of 1996, that's why. I'm just getting pissed off now. This is nothing to do with opinions, but it is just a case of knowledge. If Tupac was alive, he would have been seen. There is nobody who can hide like that who is that famous and not get spotted by anyone...
     
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  19. bluejet

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    GrandpaBW lay off of xboxdevil, no one knows if he's dead or not, no matter how you make it sound. Theres some interesting things about if hes alive or not alive. But ull never actually no until you get some REAL facts. All these articles are nothing but people beating around the bush saying this is what MIGHT of happened and how would they even know in the first place???? NONE OF YOU WERE THERE. As for the pictures, you can't tell whats fake and whats not these days with all these picture editors out there. Next thing you know there might be a look a like of tupac and someone tells him do you want to act like tupac and then they'll have him next to the beach or something playing cards, and then they'll use something like photoshop to make him look a little more like 10 years older. Don't trust pictures. The only way is to see for yourself.
     
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    Bluejet

    Give me a break! I think you'll find that when someone HUGE dies, there is an endless list of conspiracy theories. But they are pretty much a load of tripe.

    If you think he's still alive, you are welcome to think it. But the people in power will say that he is dead. We know he is dead, YOU people are those who need justification/proof

    And anyone with a knowledge of tupac would know that there is in fact a tupac lookalike - a dude from ohio. With that, anyone with a knowledge of tupac would also know that on a close look, it is not him.

    But I shall now withdraw from this thread and hope some of you will do the same as I cannot see this ending peacefully.
     
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