With all due respect to e45, I don't believe any forums killed any boxes. I'm sure all cable providers had a bank of popular pirate boxes connected to network. Any counter measures they tried would be tested in front of their eyes. They did not need any info from forums, they already knew if boxes were gone down. Nagra3 has killed the boxes & without info on forums people would have great difficulty in setting up LAN boxes. Long live the forums & the members who help others. Until such time as cable & sat providers give service at reasonable prices there will always be a market for hackers & pirates.
I think what he meant was, for a long time these box's were underground so to speak, word of mouth, hand to hand, but as more people started using em, forums sprang up and then what was a small underground "hobby" thing, was now on national radio show discussions, tv shows etc and huge business for some, i actually seen a fight in a pub between two lads fighting over who sold what box to whos customers for a fiver less than the other! I kid ya not. Yes the providers knew about em, but when they hit the radar and as big as they did and impacting their sales as much as they did, they started to implement the changes we have seen in the last few years, A lot of folk had cable boxs for a a few years, not a key roll was done, box worked perfectly, as soon as the boxs became a huge threat to their coffers, we seen key roll after key roll, rom changes, warnings to forums about posting keys, in Ireland, N2 kicked in and then N3 to combat them, So for me, there is merit in keeping thngs under wraps as much as possible, the sat cs forums dont discuss anything openly and for a good reason
maybe it should be implemented here. Keep everything quiet by making a private facebook forum or something like it.
the horse has bolted on that one, but certain things shouldnt discussed, regardless if they know or dont, these places are always monitored