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nero express vs recordnow

Discussion in 'DVDR' started by sharktaco, Mar 5, 2004.

  1. MysticE

    MysticE Active member

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    ?????? Nero has 2 forms of normalization available. RMS and Maximum.

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    [bold]hehe[/bold] - Nice One MysticE !: ]-~
     
  3. Discmania

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    Yes well that's not exactly what I meant. For a start you can only get to the normalise option by clicking on 'properties' for each track and then you have to set each track manually to normalise. Presumably you would only know which tracks to normalise after hearing them. Also the normalisation does not use Replay Gain Standard which is the best volume leveller out there. RecordNow atleast does the sensible thing and levels the volume automatically after analysing each track - the same as the software I use (which does use Replay Gain). For the sort of money Ahead asks for their software they should have incorporated an automatic volume analyser and leveller and not expect customers to hunt for one and then have to figure it out for themselves..
     
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  4. MysticE

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    No, you just highlight/choose all the tracks, go to properties/filters and it will do them all. You also have the option do do each individually if you like (as well as all the other options). The whole filter thing in Nero is very comprehensive, as can be seen by all the options in the screenshot, and allows for a wide range of individual or global tweaks.

    For folks who are interested in the 'Replay Gain' normalization they can try MP3Gain a nice freeware app that can do individual tracks or whole folders. MP3 Gain's main strength to me is it's ability to correct for clipping, which is pretty prevalent in most MP3's, and for normalizing MP3's that are being played on the computer. For burning audio CD's Nero's RMS normalization works very well.

    http://www.geocities.com/mp3gain/
     
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  5. Discmania

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    I'm sure it works fine but it's too complicated for the average user and the fact remains it still doesn't incorporate an analyser so the settings have to be done manually whether by each track or a page. I notice that there is an option in Nero 6 Express that allows normalisation of all dragged files with one click but for some strange reason this option is not available in burning rom. Even then you still have to set the levelling volume manually to get best results. MP3 gain is not the same as Replay Gain Standard though I'm sure it's acceptable.
     
  6. drchips

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    Hi all,

    With respect to my previous post, regarding RecordNow being discontinued etc.

    I have received a reply from Orlogix.

    Below is my original email, followed by Orlogix's response:

    [bold]Original Email[/bold]
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    I am a long-time user of Prassi PrimoDVD 2.0, and have recently upgraded my dvd burner to a Pioneer 107 (previously a Pioneer A04) and am looking for an upgrade to the application.

    I have managed to trace the line (Prassi -> Veritas -> Sonic).

    I HATE the look of the Sonic product, but I have noticed the technology is licenced to yourselves, Stomp and EasySystems.

    Stomp is discontinuing the product.

    Your site says nothing about discontinuing, though worryingly, there is nothing about px updates, and the supported drives list seems very out-of-date.

    A few questions, if you please:

    1 - will you continue to sell the product with the same/similar interface for the forseeable future?

    2 - will an up-to-date supported drives list be published?

    3 - will px engine updates be available?

    4 - can I PURCHASE px engine updates? (I wish to continue using my Prassi product, all that will
    be required is the engine updates)

    Hoping to hear from you soon.

    Yours..
    Malcolm
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    [bold]Orlogix Technical Support Replied[/bold]
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    Hi Malcolm

    At present, we have no intentions of discontinuing RecordNow.

    The PX engines currently available on our site are the most recent, although an up-to-date list of supported drives has not yet been issued to us by Sonic, who are the developers.

    Sonic are responsible for the PX engines and will
    continue to produce them as long as they continue the product.

    The PX engine update is a free service, allowing users to buy the newest drives and continue to use their older software.

    We would recommend downloading the PX engine updates from our website -
    http://www.orlogix.com/support_download.php?type=updates&pn=rndx

    - and see does this allow your software to recognise your burner.

    Regards
    Orlogix Technical Support
    Buy online at http://store.orlogix.com

    ------------------------------------

    So, the Good News(tm) is:

    RecordNow Max is STILL available with the "proper" interface (not the stupid one as supplied by the Sonic product).

    RecordNow Max will CONTINUE to be available in the "proper" format while Sonic continue to support the product.

    Px engine updates (as Sonic) are available for free, and will continue to be available.

    The supported drive list as on the Sonic product is the one to check.

    YIPEEE!!!!

    I can now go back to supporting and recommending RecordNow Max (as supplied by Orlogix)...

    Sorry all you Nero fanatics, your nemesis is STILL around....

    Byeeeee...



    _X_X_X_X_X_[small]Life is just more of the same:[/small]
     
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  7. herbsman

    herbsman Moderator Staff Member

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    I've saved that pic of silly user interface for Sonic version , so as to warn people - lol
    [it is very much like NeroExpress mind]

    We dont need to go back to Kindegarten : ]-~
    Damn !! I thought we had one of our arch-enemies converted

    LMAO.


     
  8. drchips

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    Haha!!
    Me a Techie geek, I use the best I can find.

    If anything better comes along, and I can see REAL benefit as a result of testing (I have NO emotional attachment to any program), I would change in a heartbeat....

    The important points are:
    REAL benefit..
    .. TESTING

    So, when Nero can meet MY demanding criteria, I will happily change

    NOTE: I have always recommended Nero for CD/VCD/General CD copying etc. etc.

    I use Nero 5.5.10.20 for the above, but not DVDs of any form.


    Sorry herbs, you gonna havta put up with me for a bit longer (until I find something better - then I will be a thorn in your side about THAT program) ! LOL !

    Have Fun...

     
  9. sharktaco

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    So where would one buy this in the US? I only see it available in Europe...
     
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    Hiya,

    To buy in US dollars, go to:
    http://www.orlogix.com/store/default.php

    and select US Dollar in the currency dropdown.

    You can pay for a Download Version or A CD Version, the choice is yours.

    No problems...

    Have Fun...
     
  11. MysticE

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    Hey.... no reason to insult Nero Express like that. ;)
     
  12. cheezzzz

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    Now now guys, guys guys!!! Sonic RecordNow! Deluxe has got all of its interfaces in their individual tabs. In fact I have dumped roxio over Sonis. It has DLA capabilities even tho it is awkward it doesnt crash like roxio often did. Its a true all in one burning proggie. My 3 bytes worth, anyway.

    cheezzzz
     
  13. sharktaco

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    um, the tab for burning DVDs for instance consists of
    1) the file
    2) a "burn" button

    the end
     
  14. sharktaco

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    My question is, can I trade in my stupid Sonic version?
     
  15. drchips

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    Hiya,
    Almost certainly not (different company).

    You could ask them, maybe you would get offered a "Competitive Discount", but it is doubtful.

    Probably your best bet is the ebay route, there are LOTS of people on there that will buy stuff for almost-full-price coz it is "Shiny!!".

    Good Luck mate..
     
  16. cheezzzz

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    [um, the tab for burning DVDs for instance consists of
    1) the file
    2) a "burn" button]

    What else do you wanna do after a burn?

    cheezzzz
     
  17. sharktaco

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    was that a joke?
     
  18. drchips

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    Hahaha!!!
     
  19. sharktaco

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    hahaha ... RecordNow funny... haha

    ;)
     
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