thanks for the reply I have at the moment got some verbatim and some traxdata still same problem with either one of them
By the way i find some new firmware for the sony,but sony has not yet put it one their site but you can check it out,greetings maes67 http://www.cdrlabs.com/#1
Whats new in firmware 2.0f: Improvement of entry efficiency Improvement of reading efficiency The media whose quality is bad (the media which has mass eccentricity or the curvature) quiet sound characteristic improvement The music disk which is drawn up with this drive (the CD Audio format) playback compatibility improvement