@ JimDandy I am not attacking you as a person just your perception of Sick Vick. No Vick does not go through his progressions as quick as some people think he should and yes he does sometimes miss wide open receivers. You tell me what NFL QB that doesn't. No my attending Falcons games live don't give me knowledge of the ins and outs of the game but my playing at a MAJOR DIVISION ONE football power does. Go UGA. If you really want to know the TRUTH I think Vick IS an AVERAGE QB but I'm just sick of this tired argument.
Yeah Jim he's right you need to lay off vick he's an amazing athlete, has more talent in his pinky than you do in your whole body. Manning is a choke artist he will never win the big game. Let's see vick took the falcons to the playoffs his rookie year. missed the second year to broken leg. third year they played great in the nfc championship game against the eagles. and last year they had tons of key injuries on defense. I look for them to be in the superbowl this year no doubts about it. The falcons wr's do stink. peerless price is extremly overrated. has good speed but his hands suck. Dunn and Crumpler seem to be the only good recievers. Finnernan is ok and white is showing progress. roddy not dez. Vick is only going to get better, but why pass for a short 5 yards when vick can cover that ground quicker than throwing the ball.
I'm from Philly so of course I'm an Eagle fan, but, not this year, and I know most people will disagree with me, but now that TO is gone so is the Eagles chances, I could'nt care less what his off the field antics were, I dont care who's Momma he called names or who he slapped, on the field he is the best bar none, big mouth or not he always gives his all, even after his sugery when the doctors told him they don't like the idea of him returning to play so soon, he played, he wants to win, I know he can be an a-hole many times but if an a-hole helps win the superbowl, go to it. Now I hear he might be going to Dallas, I hate Dallas, but I will be watching them this year, and cant wait to say to many of my friends, I TOLD YOU SO.
Joe Montana! @FredBun T.O. pisses me off. I like the niners, and you should have seen him at the 2000 playoffs when he was still with the niners. He caught the game winning touchdown in the playoffs and cried like a little baby...not saying that he was one (now he is), that just shows how much heart he used to have for the game, but now he just wants money that he doesn't need and acts like a d***.
@jazo123 Montana's receivers didn't drop many passes when he did hit them in sride. Jerry Rice, Dwight Clark, John Taylor, Freddie Solomon etc....
Hmmmmm something missing from that sentence..... Hmmmmm... oh yeah... nothing said about him being a quarterback, let alone a good one.I never disputed that he was a good athelete,he is a marvelous athelete,but no more than an average QB,100 mil plus for an average QB,if im a Falcon fan, im feeling totally ripped off. He looks at his first receiver, and if he is covered he takes off,not much for a progression reader.Mike is always going to be an average QB until he learns to quit running at the slightest sign of trouble.But I have my doubts if even then,that he has the right stuff to be a good QB.They had to "dumb down" Mora's version of the west coast offense, and he still looks like he doesnt have a clue. ummmm how many big ones has Vick won? That maybe so about Manning not ever winning the big game,but at the end of the day he will go down in history(barring injury) as one of the best to ever play the game,a shoo in for the HOF can you say that about Vick? The Falcons gave up a number 1 pick for Price,they also drafted Michael Jenkins and Roddy White in the first round,all of these guys suck?If that is the case Your front office must not know what the hell they are doing.After these blunders I would be keeping quiet about who's my favorite team. And how long is this metamorphosis going to take? he has already been in the league 5 years. Doesnt everybody?? this is one of the weakest excuses Ive ever heard, and every team that didn't win uses this excuse. This is a great example about what is wrong with the game, and the world in gereral..win at all cost! The way this bumhole treats the game, and the fans is sacrilege.After all his tantrums, and hissy fits, and crying....this chumpstain gets a raise?? T.O. destroyed the Eagles and he will do the same to the Cowboys.It couldn't happen to a better guy, I hate Jerry Jones about as much as I hate T.HOE Like it or not, TO, you are a role model,and you are telling todays youth that it is ok to do whatever the hell you feel like, as long as you can ball.This kind of attitude is what may eventually turn me off the game that I dearly love. I have to admit that I would be disturbingly pleased, if I heard this chump got hit by a bus. I guess Im missing something here,since you played for a MAJOR college persay,do they play the game different?? Do you use more starting QB's?...nope, the game is played the same from Pop Warner, to high school, to college and beyond, the x's and o's are the same.The level of competition is vastly different, but the game is the same. UGA huh...hey are you Herchel Walker? If that is the case, you sucked too, once you got to the pros LOL When did this become a pissing contest anywho?? If it is a contest, I hold the record of 35 feet
@JimDandy It seems you have a personel problem with Vick. Thats something you have to deal with. Yes the game is similar at every level in some ways(100 yard field, ten yard end zones, 6 points for touchdowns, but the x's & o's of pop warner, middle school or high school can't be compared to those of any level of college or the pro's. As you said the game IS THE SAME, but only in name. Playing and being coach at a level that's higher than what 99 percent of the young men playing football will ever reach can give you an insight to things that most fans or other players can attain. No I'm not the exceptional #34, but if I ever run across him I'll be sure to pass on your regards, and no I would win the pissing contest with the help of this syringe that is full of a undectable substance sticking out of my buttocks. LOL
It is tough having a personal problem with someone I dont know. I do hope Vick does show that he is worth all the draft picks, and the hype,if only for the sake of you Falcon fans. Its nice to have a good friendly debate without it turning into a flame war... thanks 20inchceo No winners or losers here,just a well debated topic. Have a good one Jim
Don't get me wrong, Marino Was a great QB, but didn't get them to the Super Bowl for some reason. For this reason, I don't think that he is even close to the best. I think that Vick is pretty good, scrambles well, throws far, etc., but he is not Super Bowl Material. People such as Tom Brady, Ben Roethlisberger, etc. are, and therefore, I wouldn't mention Vick at all in the best Quarterbacks list.
Vick doesn't have to be superbowl material to win it but he certainly is. There's no I in team. They have a great defense. and their offense is very good as well they have the talent. minus wr's to make the superbowl and win. Warrick Dunn is a great inside RB. you have to admit if Vick improves his passing completions by 15-20% above his normal average. He has to be considered the most dangerous offensive player in the NFL, he certainly is the most impressive. You get him passing, warrick dunn running. a couple of play actions and a few scrambles the defense is going to be utterly clueless as what to expect. And thats going to amount to W's
I dont know were you get my statement about TO as some kind of excuse, nothing I said about him mentioned any kind of excuse, the man is an a-hole, no question about that, but he is the best in his field, I dont care about his antics, there are plenty of a-holes out there in the NFL, he just happins to be on the top of the list, he also speaks his mind, when he said about Mcnabb running out of steam, remember, well I was there at that game, and TO was right on the money, it was the truth, and Mcnabb is overrated anyway. And of course I saw on the news today TO has just sighned with Dallas, good for them, and let me to tell Bill Parcells will not take any crap, he is a differnt animal than the Eagles couch which was a candy ass as far as keeping players in line, Bill will never let that happin mark my words, I will be following the Cowboys closely this year even tough I hate that team, but, I cant wait to tell my friends when he start kicking ass with the Cowboys, I told you so. I just wish TO was playing with a better quarterback than the one they have, just imagine if he sighned with the colts, him and Manning, thats a scary tought. Anyway, like I said, his antics don't bother me, he is still the best in the game.
I agree FredBun, but T.O. doesn't deserve to play in the NFL with that attitude! Donovan McNabb is [bold]extremely[/bold] overrated, keeps losing in the playoffs. Just because he made it to the Super Bowl doesn't make him good. I just hope and pray that the niners don't have another 4-12 season! lol
